Im a uk traveller

[deadscou5]

Right im no relation to tyson or bj saunders but im from a irish traveler background
Btw these 2 are not really irish tyson is manchester and bj is more midlands uk but us travlers are a strange breed we all know each other my dad and older brother have sparred and done business with the furys
So my question is who is the king of the heavyweights atm
For me i think aj and tyson walk thru deontay especially tyson puts a clinic on him
Watching bombers last few fights i dont get the hype from what ive viewed he is very sloppy to an extreme where i favor ortiz
So basically i would like to hear ur us fans opinions on it x

 

[PlayswellwithLawnDarts]

Anthony Joshua even though supposedly no one knows this guys name which is bullshit

 

[City_Lights]

I'm not sure why people are still high on Tyson Fury. His last fight was awful and he's both a complete mental and physical wreck. We don't even know if he's ever going to fight again and there is no way he walks through Wilder. His style isn't one that walks though people in general.

 

[Kovalev's "Man Bag"]

CSB but TMI, JS.

 

[deadscou5]

I'm not sure why people are still high on Tyson Fury. His last fight was awful and he's both a complete mental and physical wreck. We don't even know if he's ever going to fight again and there is no way he walks through Wilder. His style isn't one that walks though people in general.

Sit down and watch tyson v klitchcho and if u dont appriciate the performance u dont know shit about boxing

 

[MC Paul Barman]

Right im no relation to tyson or bj saunders but im from a irish traveler background
Btw these 2 are not really irish tyson is manchester and bj is more midlands uk but us travlers are a strange breed we all know each other my dad and older brother have sparred and done business with the furys
So my question is who is the king of the heavyweights atm
For me i think aj and tyson walk thru deontay especially tyson puts a clinic on him
Watching bombers last few fights i dont get the hype from what ive viewed he is very sloppy to an extreme where i favor ortiz
So basically i would like to hear ur us fans opinions on it x

I have a neighbor from Ireland (Cork).... he said that on his property one morning there was an outfit of travelers setting up on his property (he had a decent sized yard). As he's telling me this I asked him "what did you do to get them to leave?".
He replied, "you don't do anything.... you wait for them to leave."

He said getting the police involved just usually turns a mild annoyance into something potentially more dangerous.


So... is this true? Or is he exaggerating?

 

[deadscou5]

I have a neighbor from Ireland (Cork).... he said that on his property one morning there was an outfit of travelers setting up on his property (he had a decent sized yard). As he's telling me this I asked him "what did you do to get them to leave?".
He replied, "you don't do anything.... you wait for them to leave."

He said getting the police involved just usually turns a mild annoyance into something potentially more dangerous.


So... is this true? Or is he exaggerating?

Yeh basically if a settlement of travelers set up on your land or business if you are polite and offer a good deal they will leave but if ppl get police or councils involeved it can get nasty
Listen the thing with travelers is being men so if you speak to a traver man to man you will be fine the only problems are the people who dont treat travelers as business men u understand ?

 

[MC Paul Barman]

Yeh basically if a settlement of travelers set up on your land or business if you are polite and offer a good deal they will leave but if ppl get police or councils involeved it can get nasty
Listen the thing with travelers is being men so if you speak to a traver man to man you will be fine the only problems are the people who dont treat travelers as business men u understand ?

Interesting.
Thanks for the reply

 

[deadscou5]

Interesting.
Thanks for the reply

Yeh right so ill give you a story to understand abit better not all travelers live jn caravans and drive from town to town selling scrap metal and such haha
My grandmothers side are travelers but ive lived in the same house estate in lpool for 16 years im 25 now i work on a scaff yard and about 18 months ago a settlement of irish gypsies set up on the land next to us my boss wass like fone the council tell them to fuck off blah blah
I walked over explained my boss aint happy he wants you gone but hes willing to strike a deal for a load of scaff sold the lads about 3 ton of scaff for just over half price they got a deal we got a deal shook hands and they moved on really good ppl when you understand how to treat us

 

[City_Lights]

Sit down and watch tyson v klitchcho and if u dont appriciate the performance u dont know shit about boxing

I'm well aware that boxing involves foot work and defence but you're also suppose to throw punches as well. And what has he done since then besides gaining 100 pounds?

Everyone hated that fight so you can fuck off with that attitude.

 

[deadscou5]

I'm well aware that boxing involves foot work and defence but you're also suppose to throw punches as well. And what has he done since then besides gaining 100 pounds?

Everyone hated that fight so you can fuck off with that attitude.

Dont mean to have a bad attitude so i apologize if i came across tbat way but tyson out boxed a man that was so dominant and he has had alot of mental issues and bad press but just listen to the man speak hes a good person and amazing boxing brain

 

[Sunfish]

Yeh right so ill give you a story to understand abit better not all travelers live jn caravans and drive from town to town selling scrap metal and such haha
My grandmothers side are travelers but ive lived in the same house estate in lpool for 16 years im 25 now i work on a scaff yard and about 18 months ago a settlement of irish gypsies set up on the land next to us my boss wass like fone the council tell them to fuck off blah blah
I walked over explained my boss aint happy he wants you gone but hes willing to strike a deal for a load of scaff sold the lads about 3 ton of scaff for just over half price they got a deal we got a deal shook hands and they moved on really good ppl when you understand how to treat us

If I took people on a tour round where I live, showed them the nicest houses and the most successful business men, they are travellers. Don’t fuck them around, they remember who has done things for them in the past. There are very few people who can take a roll of cash of about £10k out of their pocket to pay for petrol, see that you’ve noticed and nod at you because they know I’ve never fucked them around.

 

[Boxiana]

sold the lads about 3 ton of scaff for just over half price they got a deal we got a deal shook hands and they moved on really good ppl when you understand how to treat us

So its a kind of extortion racket then? Pay us to leave?

 

[HelpYouFall]

Yeh basically if a settlement of travelers set up on your land or business if you are polite and offer a good deal they will leave but if ppl get police or councils involeved it can get nasty
Listen the thing with travelers is being men so if you speak to a traver man to man you will be fine the only problems are the people who dont treat travelers as business men u understand ?

I don't really understand much of this cause Roma communities are few and far between in Belgium.
But I don't understand how any of this can be seen as 'business'?

Seems like you're just illegally invading another man's property and giving him problems he didn't ask for.

I hate this whole 'victim or being misunderstood' vibe I get from travellers when a lot of it seems self inflicted tbh.

With all due respect.

 

[Jonny Ninja]

Right im no relation to tyson or bj saunders but im from a irish traveler background
Btw these 2 are not really irish tyson is manchester and bj is more midlands uk but us travlers are a strange breed we all know each other my dad and older brother have sparred and done business with the furys
So my question is who is the king of the heavyweights atm
For me i think aj and tyson walk thru deontay especially tyson puts a clinic on him
Watching bombers last few fights i dont get the hype from what ive viewed he is very sloppy to an extreme where i favor ortiz
So basically i would like to hear ur us fans opinions on it x

AJ is until he gets beat. He’s taken the bigger risks and holds the most respect from the fans because of it. If Tyson comes back in the same shape then I think it’s a tough call between him and Joshua as AJ is still improving. 2 years ago he’d have struggled to lay a glove on fury
I think Joshua vs wilder is about 60/40, I’d favour Joshua only because he has a tighter defence and more skills in his locker. I think fury handles wilder easier in all honesty. But will Tyson ever be the same fighter?

 

[Sunfish]

I don't really understand much of this cause Roma communities are few and far between in Belgium.
But I don't understand how any of this can be seen as 'business'?

Seems like you're just illegally invading another man's property and giving him problems he didn't ask for.

I hate this whole 'victim or being misunderstood' vibe I get from travellers when a lot of it seems self inflicted tbh.

With all due respect.

Romany and Irish traveller communities are not interchangeable terms.

 

[HelpYouFall]

Romany and Irish traveller communities are not interchangeable terms.

Oh okay, like I said, I don't really know. Cause in Belgium, when you refer to gypsies or bohemians (don't know if it a derogatory term or not, over here it isn't really), it usually means 'Roma' exclusively. So there's no connection whatsoever between the two from a cultural standpoint?

 

[Sunfish]

Oh okay, like I said, I don't really know. Cause in Belgium, when you refer to gypsies or bohemians (don't know if it a derogatory term or not, over here it isn't really), it usually means 'Roma' exclusively. So there's no connection whatsoever between the two from a cultural standpoint?

Romany is more of an ethnic term. They usually have darker skin and don’t speak with the same accent. In England people just use the term gypsy or something offensive.

It becomes very difficult to know what to say because for example my parents would call someone colored if they’re from the West Indies and not mean it as insulting.

It also seems to me that using negro is impossible, but at the same time I’ve heard Americans call someone African American when they grew up in a city in England.

Where I live there are a lot of travellers and they mostly speak with an accent people always want to connect to Irish. Think about the word Romany and it’s like you said. Different people.

Life isn’t about clumping groups of people together based on genetics, if you meet someone and like them. That’s cool.

When was Bohemia last even an independent kingdom?

 

[Sunfish]

Romany is more of an ethnic term. They usually have darker skin and don’t speak with the same accent. In England people just use the term gypsy or something offensive.

It becomes very difficult to know what to say because for example my parents would call someone colored if they’re from the West Indies and not mean it as insulting.

It also seems to me that using negro is impossible, but at the same time I’ve heard Americans call someone African American when they grew up in a city in England.

Where I live there are a lot of travellers and they mostly speak with an accent people always want to connect to Irish. Think about the word Romany and it’s like you said. Different people.

Life isn’t about clumping groups of people together based on genetics, if you meet someone and like them. That’s cool.

When was Bohemia last even an independent kingdom?

I also get annoyed at people who do no real research and say the black prince in England was actually black. His wife came from hainault his father was clearly white. Nothing from portraiture or chronicles I’ve read mean he was half moorish.

His mother Isabella was Latin and married to the French king. That is why if you see a Plantagenet coat of arms it has lions to represent England and the fluer de lis because Edward 3rd based on his mother said he was the heir to the French throne.

 

[HelpYouFall]

Life isn’t about clumping groups of people together based on genetics, if you meet someone and like them. That’s cool.

Totally agree.

Funny story:

They showed the Mayweather-Pacquiao fight in an Irish pub here in Antwerp. Place was packed with all walks of life. I spend about half an hour talking to this gentleman (who was on a holiday in Europe or something, dunno, I was drunk out of my mind)

I'm just a regular suburban kid from Belgium and I had a great time talking to this guy who obviously came from a far tougher and completely different background than me.

Great, great night.

(Some mates told me I also tried to chat up a cougar, but the jury is still out on that one. I tell myself it didn't happen.)