If You Win 90% of the Round, and Get Dropped in the Last 30 Seconds, Should You Lose the Round?

[AronaBeatsJones]

This is MMA's version of "if a tree falls in the forest..." for me.

I'm noticing this more-and-more especially by fans who score the fight that they'll score the entire round for a fighter who dropped their opponent (similar to boxing) even though they lost a mass majority of the round.

Then, there are some in the camp that fight stats (quantity of significant strikes, passes, submission attempts, etc) should be how rounds are scored.

 

[Gabe]

It's subjective and varies from fight to fight but in the case you're talking about yes, I think Anderson deserved to win that round 10-9.

 

[Ryan McGizzle]

Yes.

There are very few exceptions to this. For example if a guy is out on his feet and then he somehow gets a flash knockdown, I could see it as a 10-10. Another is if you drop the other guy more. There is almost no way you can win a round if you get legit knocked down and don't knock down your opponent.

 

[jeff7b9]

The vast majority of the time the round is scored in favor of the fighter with the knockdown *

*unless the other fighter dominated the rest of the round AND did significant damage and maybe had the guy in trouble or had a knockdown or sub attempt of his/her own

That is the precedent which has been established by judges.


Merely "winning the rest of the round" is not usually enough to outweigh a knockdown or near finish (even if GnP or against the cage)

 

[Bend NvR Break]

I think winning 1 minute out of a 5 minute round does not and should not give you the round.

Like round 4 of Gus vs Bones. Gus won 4 minutes of that round but the spinning attacks in the final minute made some people think and ultimately sealed the fight for Jones.

 

[Uncle Termite]

For those who said yes to the round should be scored as a whole and not put a knock down over a dominant round..please don't become judges...thanx in advance...lol

 

[RafaelDosSantos]

Tied

 

[Elmonstro1]

In boxing it would be a 9-9 round, automatically taking a point away to the person regardless if they won the round. Something MMA should adopt for more accurate round judging

 

[SlicerDM]

It varies but generally yes.

 

[Kansu]

If you are winning the round by a small margin, be it for 3 or 4 minutes, but you get tagged with that exchange, and then floored dramatically with that knee, then yeah, you should lose the round.

It's common sense.

 

[MMA-woooooh!!!!]

i score in favor of damage per round so yeah i guess?

 

[D4C]

If the actual consequense of fighter being dropped after getting hit occurs after the bell, it shouldn't affect anything. Judges should score just the things that happens during the round. If you get hit during the bell, the actual hit should be scored but not anything that happens after that.

"tl;dr" if you hit the ground covering yourself with your hands 0,000000001 seconds after the round, it should not be scorable. Nothing that happens during the break should have any effect on the scorecards.

 

[Ballsack Mcgee]

The round was close. Bisping was winning but no by a whole lot. So yes, Andersons knee at the end rightly won him the round.

 

[Pacemaker Joe]

If you're fucking the guy up for 4 minutes, no. Otherwise, yea. Bisping was winning the round, but he wasn't dominating. I don't have any issue giving the round to Anderson, though there's no way it as a 10-8 like some people want it to be.

 

[JayPettryMMA]

It depends on the circumstances.

 

[SublimeSun]

Not all knockdowns are the same too. The one on Bisping was vicious.

 

[TheRuthlessOne]

For fucks sake

Anderson silva lost

 

[jk7707]

Like many others have said it completely depends on the circumstances. "Winning" a round could be taken many different ways.

 

[graciefighterz]

I would say it depends on the fight. There's different types of getting 'dropped'. In the silva/bisping fight if it wasnt the end of the round the fight was over...... OVER. So yes in that round I would give it to Anderson, he ENDED the fight but a bell saved it.

 

[countswagula]

What does winning 90% of the round even mean? Being in control by a slight margin for the duration of the round up until that point? Or dropping your opponent several times? Like others have said, it depends on the circumstances. Fights use subjective judging because no two interactions in a fight are the same, or can be consistently subjected to the same metric.