If you couldn't shower after class?

[Dogstarman]

Sweat isn't even the worst part....people are always getting cut, bleeding, etc.

Well yes, there is the blood, sweat, boogers, spit, and who knows what else. I am such a germaphope it's a wonder why I even do bjj. Or maybe bjj has made me this way. You can only take getting so many skin infections until it starts to effect your outlook.

 

[Nozza]

If you read tht guys post he doesn't shower until the morning after he trains. Going home to a shower is fine. Going home after rolling on a mat with sweaty dudes, going to sleep, and showering in the morning is disgusting.

Actually I said sometimes I leave it to the morning. Most of the time I shower when I get back but I'm also not rushing back with anxiety worried about infection like some of you sound like you are. I would have said every time but I remembered that on Wed I got back late and didn't so I can't claim it's 100%.

I never get athletes foot. Never got any kind of skin disease including doing judo for 10 years. Showering every day, drying yourself and wearing clean clothing is more than enough to keep away athletes foot which is caused by the longer term conditions in between your toes. The spores are unavoidable. It's the conditions over several days you need to worry about for that particular infection.

The precise timing of showers AFTER training isn't remotely bad for training parters. Unlike many I shower BEFORE I leave the house before training. That is far more important for partners. Anyone training with me can know my gi is freshly laundered and my body is freshly washed.

Some of you sound like you just turn up to training carrying god knows what from a day's work and touching all manner of objects etc and then you have the cheek to train with other people. That is disgusting. Who knows what you bring in? For god's sake have respect and shower before you train you animals! - semi joking of course but if everyone did what I do and respected matt hygiene then infections wouldn't happen. But instead they turn up dirty and only worry about their own hygiene after training when it's too late for their partners.

 

[walril]

Trust me, if I could I would shower, I truly can't. Class is over at 130 and I start work at about 145 and live far from class and work. I have an awful work schedule and this is the only way I can possibly train. Are you saying its probably a better idea just not to train?

Then I think you need to find a different time to train. It's one thing that you can't shower and are potentially putting yourself in harms way, but you are possibly spreading harmful bacteria to other people. Please don't tell me you work in the food industry cause that's just ratchet.

Actually I said sometimes I leave it to the morning. Most of the time I shower when I get back but I'm also not rushing back with anxiety worried about infection like some of you sound like you are.

I never get athletes foot. Never got any kind of skin disease including doing judo for 10 years. Showering every day, drying yourself and wearing clean clothing is more than enough to keep away athletes foot which is caused by the longer term conditions in between your toes. The spores are unavoidable. It's the conditions over several days you need to worry about.

The precise timing of showers AFTER training isn't remotely bad for training parters. Unlike many I shower BEFORE I leave the house before training. That is far more important for partners. Anyone training with me can know my gi is freshly laundered and my body is freshly washed.

Some of you sound like you just turn up to training carrying god knows what from a day's work and touching all manner of objects etc and then you have the cheek to train with other people. That is disgusting. Who knows what you bring in? For god's sake have respect and shower before you train you animals! - semi joking of course but if everyone did what I do and respected matt hygiene then infections wouldn't happen. But instead they turn up dirty and only worry about their own hygiene after training when it's too late for their partners.

Do you live alone or dont have a GF/BF? even if you did wait till the next morning, that funk is on your sheets that youre going to sleep in the very next day. or do you wash your sheets everyday too.

Who cares if you shower before hand. I understand why you do (if you smell rank), but its the after thats important too. Jesus man. I know I smell after class. I couldn't sit in my filth for a few hours let alone overnight.

Ah. Youre from the UK. no wonder showering is optional. You wanna joke about Americans having skin diseases but at least we smell decent.

 

[KikoJones]

Ah. Youre from the UK. no wonder showering is optional. You wanna joke about Americans having skin diseases but at least we smell decent.

 

[Nozza]

Then I think you need to find a different time to train. It's one thing that you can't shower and are potentially putting yourself in harms way, but you are possibly spreading harmful bacteria to other people. Please don't tell me you work in the food industry cause that's just ratchet.




Do you live alone or dont have a GF/BF? even if you did wait till the next morning, that funk is on your sheets that youre going to sleep in the very next day. or do you wash your sheets everyday too.

Who cares if you shower before hand. I understand why you do (if you smell rank), but its the after thats important too. Jesus man. I know I smell after class. I couldn't sit in my filth for a few hours let alone overnight.

Ah. Youre from the UK. no wonder showering is optional. You wanna joke about Americans having skin diseases but at least we smell decent.

At what point did I bring nationalities into it?
Where did I say showering was optional?
Where did I joke about americans having skin diseases?

Who cares if you shower beforehand? - well YOU and everyone else should. You only infect people with stuff you bring onto the mat with your dirty skin.

Why don't you ensure you are clean before you train? Can you tell me that?

 

[walril]

At what point did I bring nationalities into it?
Where did I say showering was optional?
Where did I joke about americans having skin diseases?

Who cares if you shower beforehand? - well YOU and everyone else should. You only infect people with stuff you bring onto the mat with your dirty skin.

Why don't you ensure you are clean before you train? Can you tell me that?

I wash my hands throughout the day. I don't generally muck around during the day that im getting sweaty.

So I think Im good. You mentioned you sometimes wait till the next morning. to me thats optional (as in its optional whether I (you) take a shower after training).

 

[Nozza]

I wash my hands throughout the day. I don't generally muck around during the day that im getting sweaty.

So I think Im good. You mentioned you sometimes wait till the next morning. to me thats optional (as in its optional whether I (you) take a shower after training).

You're not good. You, your bedding, your clothing, your carpets, furniture, keyboard, mouth, hair and everything carries bacteria and fungal spores. Unless you wash your hands after every single contact with every single item 24/7 and you wash your sheets daily and use disinfectants then you are carrying foreign bacteria and spores onto the mat. 99.9% of the time this won't matter. Just like if I very ocassionally don't get to shower the minute I get home won't. Sometimes it might.

How do you think infections get onto the mat in order to give people infections if merely washing your hands a few times during day is enough?

How does showering at the facility directly after training rather than later offer more protection to training partners than showering before training?

Most of benefits of showering after training are for the person showering. Being clean before you train is mostly for your partners.

 

[Zatara]

I have a little obsessive habit of putting about a nickel size amount of anti-bacterial on my hands then rubbing my hands together and my ears/neck. I feel that these are target areas of bacteria and sitting bacteria respectively. This way if I cannot shower in a reasonable time frame (1 hour, preferably 20 minutes) then at least I have reduced my risk.
I know, Howie fucking Mandel over here.

 

[Zatara]

You're not good. You, your bedding, your clothing, your carpets, furniture, keyboard, mouth, hair and everything carries bacteria and fungal spores. Unless you wash your hands after every single contact with every single item 24/7 and you wash your sheets daily and use disinfectants then you are carrying foreign bacteria and spores onto the mat. 99.9% of the time this won't matter. Just like if I very ocassionally don't get to shower the minute I get home won't. Sometimes it might.

How do you think infections get onto the mat in order to give people infections if merely washing your hands a few times during day is enough?

How does showering at the facility directly after training rather than later offer more protection to training partners than showering before training?

Most of benefits of showering after training are for the person showering. Being clean before you train is mostly for your partners.

There is an article written by a bacteriologist linked somewhere on this forum. I believe it was in the WASH YOUR DAMN BELT thread, in other terms. You should read that(I think you might like it), every martial artist should read that.

 

[SumOfmyActions]

You will probably get fired for smelling like a wildabeast anyway. Find a different gym with different hours if possible man. It is inevitable that you will get sick and miss plenty of work of training while in the hospital getting pumped full of intravenous antibiotics so you dont rot.

 

[Nozza]

There is an article written by a bacteriologist linked somewhere on this forum. I believe it was in the WASH YOUR DAMN BELT thread, in other terms. You should read that(I think you might like it), every martial artist should read that.

Already read it.

I notice that nobody can give me a good reason for not showering before training.

to be clear I'm not advocating not showering after training. I shower at home the vast majority of the time. People are picking up a minor comment. I could have said I do it 100% of the time but I'm being honest and I can think of one time recently when I didn't. That's it. I would suggest people shower. Personally I think it's better at home unless you're hours away because communal showers are pretty dirty places.

I am advocating showering before training. I've love to hear your reasons why this isn't a very good idea for everyone involved.

 

[AXSO]

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[Goat Gobbler]

Shower after class is a must, but they make antibacterial wipes if you don't have any shower access.

 

[junco]

Good idea to shower before training (out of respect for your partners) and to shower after training. I don't think it's necessary to shower immediately after you finish training (like, within 15 minutes of finishing). Let's be real - you aren't going to explode with ringworm and staph if you spend 30 minutes after class hanging out with training partners followed by a 30 minute drive home. If you leave it overnight, that's when you will probably increase your chances of contracting a skin infection.

 

[trustdoesntrust]

If you read tht guys post he doesn't shower until the morning after he trains. Going home to a shower is fine. Going home after rolling on a mat with sweaty dudes, going to sleep, and showering in the morning is disgusting.

One Friday evening about a year ago I trained at a different gym than my own, and met up with some friends afterward in that city (about an hour from my house). I had sort-of planned on finding a way to get in a quick shower at my friend's house, but just due to whatever I didn't until the next morning. I got staph a few days later.

 

[Dogstarman]

One Friday evening about a year ago I trained at a different gym than my own, and met up with some friends afterward in that city (about an hour from my house). I had sort-of planned on finding a way to get in a quick shower at my friend's house, but just due to whatever I didn't until the next morning. I got staph a few days later.

I can see that happening. I make an all out effort to shower after training. First because I smell like shit and second because I too have gotten the dreaded staph from waiting a few hours after I trained to hit the shower. Granted, I got home, hit the squats, and then worked on my yard. I figured I was already smelly just wait until I get all my sweaty jobs done then shower. Not anymore. I shower as soon as I can after training to rinse all the funk off, even if I have more sweaty jobs lined up.

 

[trustdoesntrust]

I can see that happening. I make an all out effort to shower after training. First because I smell like shit and second because I too have gotten the dreaded staph from waiting a few hours after I trained to hit the shower. Granted, I got home, hit the squats, and then worked on my yard. I figured I was already smelly just wait until I get all my sweaty jobs done then shower. Not anymore. I shower as soon as I can after training to rinse all the funk off, even if I have more sweaty jobs lined up.

There's always a moment immediately after training when I've just changed clothes and will look at my shorts and rash guard and just be dumbfounded that I ever had those disgusting things on my body.

I have two young kids, and a couple weeks after I got that staph my (then) 1 year-old son ended up picking it up too (on his butt no less). Bacteria is relentless. A good friend of mine who is a biologist told me that if you swab behind your ear you'll find a Mexico City of bacteria.

 

[Doodles]

If my training partner went to work right after training...I would not train with him.

Why would you care what he did after training? It's the people he works with that I feel sorry for, not his training partners.

 

[TheJayRaff]

I usually go to two classes a day, with a couple of hours between them, but I live in another town. If I don't have an opportunity to shower between them, or if I know it will be a while before I can shower after the last one, I'll wipe myself down head to toe with baby wipes. Seems to suffice.

Hmmmm. Baby wipes. Solid call, im stealing that idea.

 

[Einarr]

Would an hour be too long?

I'm gonna start training at a place that's like 20-25 minutes away so assuming it takes like 45-60 minutes before I actually get in the shower, would that be too long?

I'm the same. I have a 30-40 minute journey back home. I don't use public showers as it's totally homo IMO, so I shower when I get back.