If you could go back and stop one fight from happening...

[Sisyphos]

Rory vs. Lawler.
Yes it was a magnificent fight but both fighters were damaged goods after this.

 

[Greta Thunberg]

Nah BJ died a long time ago before this bum got his hands on him.

I'm actually surprised you didn't go to that fight. Must have been sold out or something.

 

[chitoortiz]

I'm actually surprised you didn't go to that fight. Must have been sold out or something.

 

[Hauptstoss]

All of Mirko's fights post 2006 GP

 

[Sausage_Carius]

Tbf to JJ she's never really looked bad save for the first Rose fight where she was clearly affected by the weight cut. She narrowly lost the rematch, and the Zhang contest was super close. She had no chance against Valentina, but was more competitive against her excluding Nunes of course.

She has, admittedly taken a lot of damage, in the Zhang fight , in particular, but I'd say she is still around in her peak years.

She's still very much in the title picture. It's her, Zhang Xan, and Rose.

If you think that you should look up the podcast her S&C coach, Phil Daru, did with Weidman's coach on Phil's original podcast. This is back in 2018 I think.

Phil was actually there with her for the Andrade fight and while he said nothing he watched PA handle the nutrition and weight cutting for her and it was of no help. He said he didn't think she could walk to the weigh ins it was that bad and was in obvious pain the entire time but hid it. Obviously she made it to the weigh ins but for that fight too he said she operated at maybe 60% of what he saw in the prep for that fight. To put that into context Joanna had most likely pulled a muscle or pinched a nerve in her back and couldn't walk without collapsing in pain for well over a week into the last 3 weeks of her camp where they put everything she learned together. So she already put a diminished performance together there and she was still only a fraction of that in the cage.

So this has been the norm for her. Falling straight off a cliff was inevitable. She also hasn't been the same since the hand breaks which changed her style of fighting.

The last time she was still herself completely was the night she won the title. She literally hasn't been the same fighter since. JJ is far removed from her physical prime. Her mental game is what allows her to still compete but she is just racking up brain damage. I wouldn't be surprised if she is high in the rankings of female fighters in the UFC taking significant strikes to the head.

 

[blaseblah]

JDS v. Cain 2.

 

[RoxyBird]

Holloway vs. Poirier 2

 

[chiefwiggum]

Ronda vs carmouche in the ufc.

 

[BangBang]

If you think that you should look up the podcast her S&C coach, Phil Daru, did with Weidman's coach on Phil's original podcast. This is back in 2018 I think.

Phil was actually there with her for the Andrade fight and while he said nothing he watched PA handle the nutrition and weight cutting for her and it was of no help. He said he didn't think she could walk to the weigh ins it was that bad and was in obvious pain the entire time but hid it. Obviously she made it to the weigh ins but for that fight too he said she operated at maybe 60% of what he saw in the prep for that fight. To put that into context Joanna had most likely pulled a muscle or pinched a nerve in her back and couldn't walk without collapsing in pain for well over a week into the last 3 weeks of her camp where they put everything she learned together. So she already put a diminished performance together there and she was still only a fraction of that in the cage.

So this has been the norm for her. Falling straight off a cliff was inevitable. She also hasn't been the same since the hand breaks which changed her style of fighting.

The last time she was still herself completely was the night she won the title. She literally hasn't been the same fighter since. JJ is far removed from her physical prime. Her mental game is what allows her to still compete but she is just racking up brain damage. I wouldn't be surprised if she is high in the rankings of female fighters in the UFC taking significant strikes to the head.

Ah ok, I see what you mean. Yeah , her weight cuts have always been a thing of horror, except for the last one ones against Zhang, and Karate Hottie. Isn't she still cutting weight with Lockhart???

Anyway yeah I loved her all.action style better back when she won the title. She was a mesmerising striker to watch them, far less predictable and calculated more freestyle.

 

[Oddmonster]

If you had a time machine and could only use it to go back and stop one fight from ever happening, what would it be?

This would be mine:

Fedor vs Bigfoot. I honestly believe Fedor got some kind of nerve/brain damage in that fight that affected his chin resulting in any punch landing near Fedors head knocking him out.

 

[Titan1980]

The one where Tim Hague died. I kmow it wasnt in the UFC and he was no longer a UFC fighter but he fought there so fuck it. It was pretty awful reading about how he suffered so many KO losses and still kept fighting. I dont know what he was fighting for, whether to buy food for his family or trying to get anither chance at greatness but it wasnt worth his life.

 

[dindonker]

Hunt vs Lesnar

 

[Mad Dollar]

Jon Jones vs Chael Sonnen.
Chael was coming of a k.o. Loss at middleweight, the fight made absolutely no sense..

 

[PurpleStorm]

Easy for me. Aldo v. Conorio.

 

[xMTDx]

The dance in Detroit

 

[Humongo]

Fedor vs Bigfoot. I honestly believe Fedor got some kind of nerve/brain damage in that fight that affected his chin resulting in any punch landing near Fedors head knocking him out.

Surprised nobody mentioned this one in the first pages. At that time it felt like someone was beating my dad.

Nowadays I'm just not that attached to any fighter and, in fact, disliking fighters and wanting them to lose is what makes it enjoyable for me lmao.

 

[GearSolidMetal]

Liddell VS Rashad Evans

Liddell should have retired after the barnburner with Wandy.

He didn't need to try to win his belt back, he just needed a cherry on top of an awesome career.

 

[kalabula]

I would have been happier and the world a better place if Connor would have lost any of his 2014-2015 fights.

But it was such an exciting time to be an MMA fan. At least for me.

 

[Aluminati]

Any one of Bisping's losses to roid heads where he took tons of damage - probably the Vitor fight if I had to pick just one because he lost an eye. But also the hendo fight, sonnen fight, or even Wand. If he doesn't take massive damage to juiceheads his career would be perceived as being a lot more elite than right now. He might even win against guys like GSP and gastelum - if he takes those fights with 2 eyes and a less damaged chin it's probably a much different story.

Same thing with Garbrandts losses to juiced up TJ and Munhoz. If he doesn't get years taken off his chin by those juiceheads he is still champ (maybe comes up short against CCC but we'll never know).

Same could be said for DC. Getting beat up by juicehead Jones is the only real dark spot on his legacy. He deserves way more respect than he gets.

After sitting through 15 minutes of Wand vs Bisping, I don't feel like Mike took enough damage to consider that in the same vein as his fight against Vitor. Also, Wand was off the sauce and deflated as fuck, and Mike still ran away from him for 13 minutes of a 15 minute fight.

 

[Aluminati]

Hey, I didn't say I was correct but I would have to agree with Poirier in a sense that Ferguson made Gaethje look better than he is. There is no disrepect there, I was even saying that Justin is one of the worst matchups for Tony. I just don't think Tony was his usual self. Nothing was happenin in that fight that wasn't happening in fights before that for Ferguson (against people with better cardio), this time he just didn't do what he usually does. And there are many other things that didn't happen but I guess that was Ferguson camp choice and thats okay. Maybe it was two weight cuts in short amount of time (even Justin admitted that wuld affect him), maybe it was nothing. We will never know. All in all, he got blasted and better man won that night. Only thing I am trying to say is that i believe that Tony Ferguson is better MMA fighter than Justin Gaethje - IMHO obviously.

Maybe, just maybe, Poirier thought Wittman and Gaethje saw some things on film they knew they could exploit, executed a gameplan, and Tony did his part by being Tony. Judging by how frequently Tony got tagged hard at the end of combinations, I'd say they found a opening in his striking defense that they abused repeatedly. Tony has to fix those things, because pressure fighting only works when you have good defense or can handle the damage being given back, otherwise you're just running face first into a meat grinder.