if you can't draw PPVs why should you get paid?

[skullmaskkid]

all the fighter negotiation/contract talk has me asking that question. In capitalist society marginal benefit = marginal wage. It's unclear why some guy who draws nothing should really get compensated all that much

 

[AceCooch]

You're right, except every fighter in UFC is drawing money, and Dana/Owners are taking a large portion of that before diviying it up among the fighters

 

[screaminleeman]

all the fighter negotiation/contract talk has me asking that question. In capitalist society marginal benefit = marginal wage. It's unclear why some guy who draws nothing should really get compensated all that much

Well, maybe the PPV model is not the only way for the company to make money.

NFL, NBA, MLB & NHL players combined don't sell a single PPV, and are getting paid.

 

[skullmaskkid]

Well, maybe the PPV model is not the only way for the company to make money.

NFL, NBA, MLB & NHL players combined don't sell a single PPV, and are getting paid.

that's cause there's competition between teams, so there's a market wage. Market wage in MMA is low, if UFC doesn't pay their fighters, no one will step in and outbid them

 

[Leinster Rugby]

Not that I dont see your point but a few reasons - they have mouths to feed, mortgages to pay off and training camps to pay for.

plus they earn very little as it is, most of them

 

[LawFitz]

Because Fox, Monster and Heecok money

 

[johnyboy]

As in the headliners getting a cut? It kinda works out in the end though. A fighter like mighty mouse who does not generate a lot of ppv sales would get a % of those sales which would be small in comparison to someone like conor.

 

[Weidman]

 

[special_k]

Not that I dont see your point but a few reasons - they have mouths to feed, mortgages to pay off and training camps to pay for.

plus they earn very little as it is, most of them

So why don't you donate money to them then, if they *should* get paid because of their needs and not because of their value. Why would their employer, then, who is paying them for value, be the one to pay them for their needs? Put your own money where your mouth is.

 

[13Seconds]

Because they fight for the organisation?

 

[Koro_11]

So why don't you donate money to them then, if they *should* get paid because of their needs and not because of their value. Why would their employer, then, who is paying them for value, be the one to pay them for their needs? Put your own money where your mouth is.

UFC shill detected.

 

[13Seconds]

So why don't you donate money to them then, if they *should* get paid because of their needs and not because of their value. Why would their employer, then, who is paying them for value, be the one to pay them for their needs? Put your own money where your mouth is.

Why does this even concern you? Do you work for the UFC?

Just enjoy the fights brah

 

[screaminleeman]

that's cause there's competition between teams, so there's a market wage. Market wage in MMA is low, if UFC doesn't pay their fighters, no one will step in and outbid them

You are 100% correct. With that said, The UFC (& MMA in general) will need to continue to expand their fanbase, and also reach into the high dollar male demographics in order to make sponsors spend much larger sums of money to advertise during their televised events. It is far from an overnight migration from the current PPV model to a sponsorship driven model that has provided staggering money for their athletes.

 

[Cygnus-X]

You're right, except every fighter in UFC is drawing money, and Dana/Owners are taking a large portion of that before diviying it up among the fighters

LOL, no. There's probably less than a dozen draws in the UFC and probably not half of those are PPV draws.

But

the biggest reason non-draws should get paid is because nobody is going to stick around the sport to become a draw if they don't.

 

[Frank Edgar]

Not that I dont see your point but a few reasons - they have mouths to feed, mortgages to pay off and training camps to pay for.

plus they earn very little as it is, most of them

Then they should go to school and get real jobs. Beating people up for a living doesn't actually produce anything important for society.

They are entertainers, if they aren't drawing an audience then they are not fulfilling their purpose.

 

[skullmaskkid]

LOL, no. There's probably less than a dozen draws in the UFC and probably not half of those are PPV draws.

But

the biggest reason non-draws should get paid is because nobody is going to stick around the sport to become a draw if they don't.

this is the only legit point i seen so far, kind of like why NBA sponsors the D League.

 

[rerun406]

NFL, NBA, MLB & NHL players combined don't sell a single PPV, and are getting paid.

True, but I figure all those sports leagues listed are more known/popular when compared to the sport of MMA

 

[Verace]

You shouldnt... but they are getting under paid overall

What can you expect... most people who buy ppv:

 

[blingking]

The capitalism argument seems to always get turned against athletes no matter what they want.

When athletes want to get paid more the arguments are:

A. They get paid millions to play a game/fight why do they need more
B. In no other line of work are the common workers getting 50% of the income that the Company generates.
C. No one pays to that THEM (for the non-stars).

 

[Pliny Pete]

You're right, except every fighter in UFC is drawing money, and Dana/Owners are taking a large portion of that before diviying it up among the fighters

The UFC is the draw
Put most of these fighters in a different group and do they sell out 20,000 seat arenas?
Hell no, they'd be lucky to do 2,000
It seems like they get paid based on how many people actually want to see that person perform just like every other combat sport/pro rasslin organization in history