If Michael Bisping beats Weidman, is he the GOAT?

[Sonny Qc]

 

[K1MMA]

No, why? Are you comparing beating Anderson, Rockhold and Weidman to beating Gall?

No, I'm just asking some random stupid shit thinking this would be a good thread for it.

 

[Sonny Qc]

 

[IamStryker]

You guys are far to obsessed with who the GOAT is. It only encourages the UFC and Rogan to keep pandering about it.

 

[Necrobishop]

A big IF. But I'll root for him, as I hate Weidman

 

[loisestrad]

No, I'm just asking some random stupid shit thinking this would be a good thread for it.

Well, obviously Bisping wouldn't be GOAT, but exaggeration aside, it's not even top 10 of stupidest threads today, and well, as I mentioned, I would probably consider Bisping GOAT mw - ped's taken into consideration.

 

[ConditFan]

Absolutely not. His resume still wouldn't be better than Anderson. Or weidman probably for that matter

 

[LukeSkyRutten]

Name 1 other middleweight with a better resume? He'll never be the P4P GOAT but if he decisively beats Weidman no other MW will have a better resume including Silva. He'll definitely make a claim to MW GOAT.

Silva defended the title a record 10 times, and went undefeated for 16 straight. You don't become the MW GOAT with one title defence, a fraction of the top five wins, or a fraction of the top ten wins. I like Bisping, I even predicted his first round KO, but this is ridiculous.

 

[LukeSkyRutten]

Well, obviously Bisping wouldn't be GOAT, but exaggeration aside, it's not even top 10 of stupidest threads today, and well, as I mentioned, I would probably consider Bisping GOAT mw - ped's taken into consideration.

That would imply that Anderson was on steroids his entire career, but if that is the case, his fight with Bisping must be Anderson fighting undoubtedly clean yes?

If so, at the age of 41, he almost won, so if we think logically for a second, how was Bisping going to beat the man at age 31?

 

[Tormund]

Silva defended the title a record 10 times, and went undefeated for 16 straight. You don't become the MW GOAT with one title defence, a fraction of the top five wins, or a fraction of the top ten wins. I like Bisping, I even predicted his first round KO, but this is ridiculous.

Silva never beat a Rockhold or a Weidman, Silva was a dominant champion and will always have a claim to GOAT but Bisping could have a claim if he were to beat Weidman decisively. That and Silvas failed drug test for thai sex pills. Silvas best win at MW is probably Hendo or Belfort.

 

[K1MMA]

Well, obviously Bisping wouldn't be GOAT, but exaggeration aside, it's not even top 10 of stupidest threads today, and well, as I mentioned, I would probably consider Bisping GOAT mw - ped's taken into consideration.

Oh come on now. You genuinely believe Bisping is the only clean guy at MW?

As far as MWs go, I can't think of anyone other than Anderson as the GOAT.

Don't even like the guy, but that's the way I see it.

 

[Harmonica]

The GOAT title has lost its meaning a long time on this forum. Let the sport reach some milestone, for example 50th anniversary, and then start this discussion.

 

[loisestrad]

That would imply that Anderson was on steroids his entire career, but if that is the case, his fight with Bisping must be Anderson fighting undoubtedly clean yes?

If so, at the age of 41, he almost won, so if we think logically for a second, how was Bisping going to beat the man at age 31?

He didn't almost win. He lost a clear decision (unless you're referring to the controversy when Bisping got dropped and Anderson started celebrating).

 

[ExitLUPin]

Silvas best win at MW is probably Hendo or Belfort.

Two guys who KTFO of Bisping lol

Chael also beat Bisping.

I mean Leben is prolly Mikes like 7th best win and not even top 10 for Anderson, and Anderson smashed him unlike Michael.

Even if he beats Weidman he doesnt have the top wins to be ranked over Anderson, Luke or Weidman. He has a bunch of decent to mediocre wins.

 

[Sjb1888]

It would certainly make him an all time top 5 MW, incredible turnaround from where he was this time last year.

 

[Selukrid612]

Well, obviously Bisping wouldn't be GOAT, but exaggeration aside, it's not even top 10 of stupidest threads today, and well, as I mentioned, I would probably consider Bisping GOAT mw - ped's taken into consideration.

You realize he's now 1-1 with Luke, right? And that under that scenario he'd have won the title in a shocking upset and only defended it once? Not to mention his relatively recent loss to Tim Kennedy, which was quite decisive.

 

[Godzilla3232]

I'd give him best MW of all time. Beating Luke, Weidman and Anderson trumps Anderson's run tenfold.

 

[Kovalev's "Man Bag"]

If he keeps springing these upsets then he might very well be God in Brit form.

 

[LukeSkyRutten]

He didn't almost win. He lost a clear decision (unless you're referring to the controversy when Bisping got dropped and Anderson started celebrating).

Many of the media scored the fight for Anderson. Including Sherdog. I scored it for Bisping but that is besides the point. The point is that it was close.

The further implication is that if Anderson took Bisping to a close decision clean, with USADA and at the age of 41… Surely you would thinke he would perform worse than he did against Diaz, whilst 'using' PED's [Which were in fact anti- anxiety meds and a bodybuilding cutting agent].

 

[loisestrad]

You realize he's now 1-1 with Luke, right? And that under that scenario he'd have won the title in a shocking upset and only defended it once? Not to mention his relatively recent loss to Tim Kennedy, which was quite decisive.

Which is why I'm stressing "considering ped's".

We haven't had a dominant champ at mw that wasn't suspect of using (or got caught), and Bispings streak would probably be the best out of pretty much anyone at the weightclass (beating Silva, Rockhold and Weidman).