If Merab successfully defends his title for a 4th time this year, how do you rank him all time compared to Khabib

[Xoleth]

1. Failed on all 13 takedown attempts and got taken down himself
2. Got outstruck in 2 rounds out of 3 where Tibau landed almost twice as many strikes
3. You don't seem to give a shit about other stats too because you seem to be a braindead nuthugger lol

1. Indeed. So, we are only left with the striking.
2. No, he did not get outstruck. He dominated the striking.This is why I added that video. Did you watch the fight?
3. That's the problem with most of you sherdoggers. You care too much about some fighters who don't give a shit about you and you assume everybody else does and everybody else is a nuthugger, just like you, most probably. Or a hater. Neah, if all the ranked fighters die tonight in a violent manner, them and their families, I will be "shit, ok, RIP, shit happens, let's see the next fighters"
Stop assuming everybody gives a shit about some people they don't know and get over your parasocial relationships.

 

[dominion]

I want to see him rematch Umar before I crown him but certainly already a good argument for division goat

 

[Plissken]

He already has better wins than Khabib.

 

[ledonk]

He's already above Khabib when it comes to accomplishments. Khabib is just rated on what he could have been.

 

[RockyLockridge]

dont be silly he's already past khabib all time ranking

 

[Söze Aldo]

He's already above Khabib when it comes to accomplishments. Khabib is just rated on what he could have been.

 

[mkt]

I already rate him way ahead of Khabib. Khabib didn’t do enough or fight frequently enough to rate him that highly. He’s barely in my top 15 or 20

Yeah, Merab didn't retire at 31.

 

[mkt]

1. Khabib's resume is thin compared to other great fighters--that should be obvious. The argument for Khabib is that his peak was higher than everyone else's, i.e., he was better and more dominant.

Based on what? He won his belt by beating a fringe Top 10 fighter in a UD. His 3 title defenses were all against the same type of fighter (strikers with suspect TDD and/or submission defense). He didn't fight long enough or fight a diverse enough group of elite fighters to get close to a GOAT conversation. He didn't even break the LW title defense record (he tied BJ, Frankie and Bendo for 3 title defenses).

 

[Söze Aldo]

Yeah, Merab didn't retire at 31.

Also, Merab was always a much more active fighter than Khabib through 30 as well. Khabib was a mostly once a year fighter the whole last half of his UFC career.

Every Dagestani now, tends to emulate that schedule regardless of their age or health, in his honor I guess.

 

[Natural Order]

His career has already surpassed Khabib.

 

[JoeRowe]

He already has 5 wins over UFC champions, Khabib has 2. Yan can KO Merab in 3 seconds like Masvidal/Askren and Merab is still ahead of Khabib.

 

[Preston broadus]

Merab just takes you to deep water.
Khabib takes you there and drowns you.

Khabib>merab

 

[DrRodentia]

I'm terms of resume for resume, I think Merab has already surpassed Khabib. I think a lot of guys have better resume's than Khabib had. His career was pretty short.

Khabib had an enigma like aura to him, and he retired on top. He has multiple difficult variables to factor in when ranking people in this sport.

Khabib's impact on the sport may be bigger than his individual accomplishments, which were also great. Interesting person and career.

 

[laleggenda27]

Based on what? He won his belt by beating a fringe Top 10 fighter in a UD. His 3 title defenses were all against the same type of fighter (strikers with suspect TDD and/or submission defense). He didn't fight long enough or fight a diverse enough group of elite fighters to get close to a GOAT conversation. He didn't even break the LW title defense record (he tied BJ, Frankie and Bendo for 3 title defenses).

Khabib had 13 fights in the UFC, 4 of those being title fights. In those 13 fights (38 rounds), he only officially lost 2 rounds (R3 to Conor and R1 to Gaethje). That level of dominance is crazy impressive; the only UFC fighter who can make a similar claim is Jones.

For the record, I'm not making any p4p GOAT arguments. In fact, as stated in my original post, the concept of p4p is completely absurd. An argument can certainly be made that he's the LW GOAT, though (BJ and Islam would have something to say about it, obviously).

 

[mkt]

Khabib had 13 fights in the UFC, 4 of those being title fights. In those 13 fights (38 rounds), he only officially lost 2 rounds (R3 to Conor and R1 to Gaethje). That level of dominance is crazy impressive; the only UFC fighter who can make a similar claim is Jones.

For the record, I'm not making any p4p GOAT arguments. In fact, as stated in my original post, the concept of p4p is completely absurd. An argument can certainly be made that he's the LW GOAT, though (BJ and Islam would have something to say about it, obviously).

I agree Khabib is certainly in the LW GOAT conversation. He just didn't fight enough to be in any discussion beyond that. While I acknowledge P4P arguments are tough and there's little consensus, you can point to things like total number of title defenses. Fighters like Jones, GSP and Anderson had double-digit numbers of title defenses. Khabib had 3.

 

[560ti]

You're mixing non-title fights compared to Khabib's title-fight-only stats. That's not an honest comparison.

The problem was Khabibs title only stats were really the only elite wins he had so yeah it's not exactly dishonest. The only top 5 guy he fought in a non title fight was decisioning Barboza whose solid but not really what I'd call a note worthy win.