If Islam beats Arman decisively, does he become the greatest lightweight ever?

[El Diego]

I think prime Khabib would finish Islam but in terms of one's body of work, it'd be pretty close.

Khabib:
1. McGregor
2. Poirier
3. Gaethje
4. RDA
5. Tibau

Islam:
1. Oliveira
2. Volkanovski II
3. Poirier
4. Tsarukyan II
5. Volkanovski I

Charles is clearly a better win than anyone on Khabib's record but Khabib also faced a better version of Dustin and beat him far more dominantly so...idk

 

[World eater]

No, because Khabib seemed invincible and the narrative will be that Islam always lost to him in practice. 2 more defences and it will be hard to argue.

 

[Deleted member 517683]

First he has to beat Arman. And it's not so clear that that will actually happen.
Your list has two times Volkanovski, who is a FW and is way too small for LW. How are two good LW-opponents supposed to make him the GOAT of LW?

People are way too quick with this "best of" talk.

 

[Adamant]

Nah. But maybe if he goes up to WW, wins that belt, then defends both belts simultaneously. Then yeah maybe.

Perhaps Khabib could convince Dana to let Islam do that.

 

[TheMissedRightHook]

When you compare them I think there 2 factors that are going to hurt Islam and make Khabib the greater light weight. 1. Is Islam KO lost to Adriano Martins ( who went on to lose his next 5 fights) and as everyone know Khabib retired undefeated. The second part that hurt Islam is many people felt he lost his first fight with Volkanovski. Were Khabib dominated basically ever one in front of him.

 

[Michael Wetzel]

Penn:
Stevenson
Sherk
Pulver
Florian
Sanchez
Hughes

 

[bjjwar]

No, because Khabib seemed invincible and the narrative will be that Islam always lost to him in practice. 2 more defences and it will be hard to argue.

Islam got KO’ed and lost to a FW. He can have 50 title defenses in a row, he would never pass Khabib.

 

[Brigfa2]

Islam never will never have his viral Conor moment so even he become the WW and MW champ, people will always say ''Khabib is the best, he would've done it too if he did not retire''.

But of course i'm talking about casual Dagestani fans around the world

 

[AndrewGolota48]

Islam would never admit it but in a real MMA fight he would abuse Khabib, it would look like GSP vs Hughes 2.

Khabib getting the better of it during grappling sparring does not translate to MMA. Bo Nickal probably dominates all his training partners during grappling training, but in MMA plenty of those guys would destroy him, at the moment at least.

 

[mister piscadinha]

islam's problem is that his record is full of rematches, that's very usman-like


now if he beat arman, holloway and charles again he's set

 

[DoubleTrouble]

Needs a couple more defences to surpass Khabib but at the moment he's on a par with Charles and way ahead of BJ Can and anyone else who fans consider to be in the conversation.

 

[DoubleTrouble]

Penn:
Stevenson
Sherk
Pulver
Florian
Sanchez
Hughes

All shit aside from Hughes

 

[Chayanne]

I think prime Khabib would finish Islam but in terms of one's body of work, it'd be pretty close.

Khabib:
1. McGregor
2. Poirier
3. Gaethje
4. RDA
5. Tibau

Islam:
1. Oliveira
2. Volkanovski II
3. Poirier
4. Tsarukyan II
5. Volkanovski I

Charles is clearly a better win than anyone on Khabib's record but Khabib also faced a better version of Dustin and beat him far more dominantly so...idk

To me Khabib is the best ever at this weight, he fought all these fighters in their prime.

 

[omawho402]

Islam already is better than Khabib, but another victory over Arman will drive the point home.

 

[Shammon]

Islam would never admit it but in a real MMA fight he would abuse Khabib, it would look like GSP vs Hughes 2.

Khabib getting the better of it during grappling sparring does not translate to MMA. Bo Nickal probably dominates all his training partners during grappling training, but in MMA plenty of those guys would destroy him, at the moment at least.

Mak would get outgrappled in an MMA fight too lol.

 

[RockyLockridge]

I think maybe if he had 5 top 10 LW wins, I could consider putting him in the top 15 all time LW's

 

[Doctor Grudge]

I think prime Khabib would finish Islam but in terms of one's body of work, it'd be pretty close.

Khabib:
1. McGregor
2. Poirier
3. Gaethje
4. RDA
5. Tibau

Islam:
1. Oliveira
2. Volkanovski II
3. Poirier
4. Tsarukyan II
5. Volkanovski I

Charles is clearly a better win than anyone on Khabib's record but Khabib also faced a better version of Dustin and beat him far more dominantly so...idk

RDA is the best win Khabib ever got, and Tibau....I dont think he was better than Barboza, he just did way better against Khabib (understatement).

Beating Tsaryukan is really impressive though.

 

[Substance Abuse]

All shit aside from Hughes

 

[Deleted member 517683]

Needs a couple more defences to surpass Khabib but at the moment he's on a par with Charles and way ahead of BJ Can and anyone else who fans consider to be in the conversation.

All shit aside from Hughes

Wanna be.
It's stupid if you want to talk about fighters who were active before you were even born.
You see the casual again who has no idea about anything.

 

[VinceArch]

Penn:
Stevenson
Sherk
Pulver
Florian
Sanchez
Hughes

Hughes wasn't a LW.