If Cormier beats Stipe he is the GOAT no question

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undisputed GOAT at LHW, he beats the second best HW of all time he has to be no. 1 of all time.
 
How can he be GOAT when he’s lost to Jon 2x? It makes no sense considering JBJ still is fighting.
 
How can he be GOAT when he’s lost to Jon 2x? It makes no sense considering JBJ still is fighting.

jon jones is a cheating bum. he never beat anyone legitimately.
 
This dude was on tv crying after he got his ass beat (again) .casuals were coming up to me at work saying "did you see that crying mma fighter"
 
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jon jones is a cheating bum. he never beat anyone legitimately.

Salty hater. I don’t even like JBJ personality at all, but, he’s a better MMA fighter than DC. It’s been proven 2x.
 
He's 13-0 in his HW career, including decisive wins over a prime (trt) Bigfoot, coming off the Fedor win, Barnett, Mir and Nelson. If he beats Stipe, then say Werdum and Overeem or JDS, he could be considered for HW GOAT.
 
Fedor fought in an org that didn't test for juice at all and is considered goat by many. Even when Fedor started fighting in legit orgs and started losing, his goat status remained. So if pride fights count towards goat then Jones fights should count too. Even if Jon starts losing, now that he'll most likely be fighting clean, his fights should still count, just to be fair.
 
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He's going to be the most overrated fighter ever, no question.

-He's a paper LHW champion. Say what you want about Jones being on roids, but the fights weren't even close. He lost 4 rounds to 1 in the first fight and he was losing the rematch before getting KO'd in the 3rd round. The skill gap was just too big to fully blame roids.

It's like saying Shogun would have beaten a clean Jon Jones. Juice or not, that version of Shogun was never beating Jones. They were on different levels at the time. It doesn't matter how much Josh Barnett juiced, he was never beating CroCop. Roids cannot erase such a big gap of skill. DC and Jones aren't even close.

-LHW is weak as hell. Cormier's best LHW win is Crumble, whose best win is Gustafsson, whose best win is an over the hill Shogun.

-Cormier has a terrible striking defense

Doesn't defend leg kicks
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Doesn't defend body kicks

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Doesn't defend knees

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He has a horrible tendency to duck below the waist, which is how Jones caught him:

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He also has a sloppy ground game and for a decorated wrestler, his TDD isn't that great either. His skills are not GOAT material.

-Miocic is one of the weakest #1 HW's in history. He's beating mostly past prime fighters. Also sloppy:

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Sorry, but DC isn't GOAT material. If someone like DC was considered the greatest ever, the entire sport would lose it's value.

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He lost 2 times to Jon Jones (unofficially 3 times if you include the press conference brawl), who still also has a much better resume.

So no.

And that's without even getting into the fact that others GOAT contenders again have much stronger resumes too. Let me know when DC has 8+ title defences instead of 3.
 
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