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Idea on how to get new blood without costing the UFC too much.

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Specifically heavyweights.

Most agree the heavyweight champ, either in boxing or MMA is the baddest man on the planet.

We have to find a way to get these high school and college football players to want to train MMA.

Its all about money and even if I could, im not fighting fuqqin Mark Hunt wearing 4 oz gloves for $60,000.

In other sports, its really more about getting a fat signing bonus than what youre making yearly because salaries arent guaranteed and you can get cut at anytime.

If the UFC included a one time, $10 million bonus for any fighter who wins a belt, it would be a start...no?

That could be enough to get some monsters away from the NFL and in an MMA gym.
 
Specifically heavyweights.


If the UFC included a one time, $10 million bonus for any fighter who wins a belt, it would be a start...no?

That could be enough to get some monsters away from the NFL and in an MMA gym.
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>10 Million



1. They don’t even pay the entire roster on a card that much.

2. You can’t teach “A-Level athletes” like football players how to take a punch


3. If athleticism was the only aspect to fighting Brock Lesnar would still be Champ


 
Specifically heavyweights.

Most agree the heavyweight champ, either in boxing or MMA is the baddest man on the planet.

We have to find a way to get these high school and college football players to want to train MMA.

Its all about money and even if I could, im not fighting fuqqin Mark Hunt wearing 4 oz gloves for $60,000.

In other sports, its really more about getting a fat signing bonus than what youre making yearly because salaries arent guaranteed and you can get cut at anytime.

If the UFC included a one time, $10 million bonus for any fighter who wins a belt, it would be a start...no?

That could be enough to get some monsters away from the NFL and in an MMA gym.


Heavyweight isn't the ideal weight class in MMA.

That's a boxing thing that you need to stop holding onto.

The best weight classes in MMA are the mid and lighter.
 
>10 Million



1. They don’t even pay the entire roster on a card that much.

2. You can’t teach “A-Level athletes” like football players how to take a punch


3. If athleticism was the only aspect to fighting Brock Lesnar would still be Champ




Cut half the roster or start a UFC D-league.

I know the UFC doesn't pay much but that's why we, as fans, are suffering.

I love football but im not watching the Browns play the Jets.

That's how I feel we are being treated by the UFC...they give us the Browns vs the Jets on every card.

Lesnar got sick or who knows.
 
The best heavyweight athletes available are in Eastern Europe where people are really big on average and Europe doesn't have many sport opportunities for really big people (no NFL and basketball is not that popular in most countries, big people can't play soccer). The standard of living is lower than in the West and a lot of people are interested in prizefighting as evident from the recent rise of Eastern European boxers. The UFC should splash some money on talented Eastern European heavyweights coming up, have them come over to the USA and pay for their training and supplements. Or set up some hi-tech MMA gyms in Poland and the Balkans, the places with one of the highest concentrations of big heavyweight-ish people on the planet.
 
Not a ton of human beings want to or can physically mentally and technically fight professionally for a living

It will never grow beyond it’s peak (which has already occurred). Higher salary will only help with retention (satisfied fighters, better access to training, not needing to work a second job!) more than actual recruitment of new young fighters, in my opinion.

I’ve noticed that even elite fighters taper off when the money is good, because back to my original point: it’s not a glamorous or health activity behind the bright lights and Just Bleed crowd noise.

But yes UFC fighters should be paid more than $10k + 10K.
 
Not gonna happen. Takes a special individual to be a HW. Big men don't like getting hit in the face by other big men - you can literally have brain damage just from sparing a few times - thats why world class HW wrestlers don't join UFC and they are perfect candidates having years of martial arts experience. Even HW Boxing is a dearth of talent.

This is not to say fighting is not a tough profession for all weights - thats why rich fighters dont fight frequent - but it's a so much more dangerous higher in weight you go. Women and FLW hit each other clean 100s of times for what one HW punch packs and all our brains frailness are the same. See the problem?
 
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The best heavyweight athletes available are in Eastern Europe where people are really big on average and Europe doesn't have many sport opportunities for really big people (no NFL and basketball is not that popular in most countries, big people can't play soccer). The standard of living is lower than in the West and a lot of people are interested in prizefighting as evident from the recent rise of Eastern European boxers. The UFC should splash some money on talented Eastern European heavyweights coming up, have them come over to the USA and pay for their training and supplements. Or set up some hi-tech MMA gyms in Poland and the Balkans, the places with one of the highest concentrations of big heavyweight-ish people on the planet.
You don't know what you're talking about. Basketball is huge in eastern Europe. Also, although the goal of every major sport is to go "global", the American fan base is the most important. In that respect, if you want to bring in the mainstream fans, you need an English speaking, pop culture savvy, flamboyant individual to get the kids excited a la Conor or Ronda. Before you say Conor has a whole country behind him, realize that if it wasn't for his popularity in the west, he wouldn't be able to achieve a fraction of the success he is currently enjoying.
On another note, being big and broke is not the only criteria for being a successful heavyweight. A combination of speed, size, power, explosiveness, training from childhood and being broke are, which are all things on display on the grid irons and Bball courts of North America erday.
 
You start a minor league again like WEC and the best graduate to UFC.

I would also do a yearly UFC world tour where you set up tryouts in every country and regions. No fight experience required. Requirements being that you are in shape, athletic and want to learn to fight.

You sign those people that show promise to 10k developmental deals. If they work out, they go to the WEC promotion. If they succeed, they go to the UFC.

I could imagine getting some real talent that otherwise would never have a chance doing this. They are going to have to do something soon because LHW and HW are dire.
 
You don't know what you're talking about. Basketball is huge in eastern Europe.

I'm from Eastern Europe and no it's not, it's only popular in some Eastern European countries and even there it's way less popular than football.

Also, although the goal of every major sport is to go "global", the American fan base is the most important. In that respect, if you want to bring in the mainstream fans, you need an English speaking, pop culture savvy, flamboyant individual to get the kids excited a la Conor or Ronda. Before you say Conor has a whole country behind him, realize that if it wasn't for his popularity in the west, he wouldn't be able to achieve a fraction of the success he is currently enjoying.

I don't give a damn about American fanbase and pop culture, in fact it would be better if the sport was completely European-based. I'm saying what would be the best thing for the sport. The less Conor's and Ronda's, the better.
 
Sell the UFC performance institute facility. Cut Dana salary in half. Start paying decent salary to the fighters.
 
I'm from Eastern Europe and no it's not, it's only popular in some Eastern European countries and even there it's way less popular than football.



I don't give a damn about American fanbase and pop culture, in fact it would be better if the sport was completely European-based. I'm saying what would be the best thing for the sport. The less Conor's and Ronda's, the better.
It's still popular in some countries and offers an opportunity for those who are tall to be successful and make money.
You don't give a damn about the American fan base, but if you really want what's best for the sport, you should.
 
Specifically heavyweights.

Most agree the heavyweight champ, either in boxing or MMA is the baddest man on the planet.

We have to find a way to get these high school and college football players to want to train MMA.

Its all about money and even if I could, im not fighting fuqqin Mark Hunt wearing 4 oz gloves for $60,000.

In other sports, its really more about getting a fat signing bonus than what youre making yearly because salaries arent guaranteed and you can get cut at anytime.

If the UFC included a one time, $10 million bonus for any fighter who wins a belt, it would be a start...no?

That could be enough to get some monsters away from the NFL and in an MMA gym.
1. Why do we need to "get these high school and college football players to want to train MMA"? It sounds like you're buying into the asinine theory that all the best athletes are in the NFL. If you want to target any specific group of athletes to transition to HW MMA, it should be NCAA/internationl wrestlers.

2. "In other sports, its really more about getting a fat signing bonus than what youre making yearly because salaries arent guaranteed and you can get cut at anytime." This is blatantly false. The NFL is the only American sport where contracts aren't guaranteed and players can just be cut.

3. If you want to attract more talent using money, adding a bonus for champions certainly isn't the way to do it. You'd be much better off raising the entry-level salary.
 
You don't give a damn about the American fan base, but if you really want what's best for the sport, you should.

How is it the best for the sport to openly discriminate against fighters from Eastern Europe because they don't give a fuck about some degenerate American pop culture that has nothing to do with MMA? This doesn't have anything to do with the sport, it's about interests of few rich people that have nothing to do with me. It always surprises me how servile you Americans are to the rich people. Always talking about their interests and defending them.

Becuase of this alone it would be better if MMA was entirely European based. In fact, the demise of the UFC and the rise of promotions like KSW would be the best thing that could happen to MMA.

Americans are just too servile to rich people and let them get away with everything. I can't believe people actually defend the UFC capitalist model.
 
Specifically heavyweights.

Most agree the heavyweight champ, either in boxing or MMA is the baddest man on the planet.

We have to find a way to get these high school and college football players to want to train MMA.

Its all about money and even if I could, im not fighting fuqqin Mark Hunt wearing 4 oz gloves for $60,000.

In other sports, its really more about getting a fat signing bonus than what youre making yearly because salaries arent guaranteed and you can get cut at anytime.

If the UFC included a one time, $10 million bonus for any fighter who wins a belt, it would be a start...no?

That could be enough to get some monsters away from the NFL and in an MMA gym.
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How is it the best for the sport to openly discriminate against fighters from Eastern Europe because they don't give a fuck about some degenerate American pop culture that has nothing to do with MMA? This doesn't have anything to do with the sport, it's about interests of few rich people that have nothing to do with me. It always surprises me how servile you Americans are to the rich people. Always talking about their interests and defending them.

Becuase of this alone it would be better if MMA was entirely European based. In fact, the demise of the UFC and the rise of promotions like KSW would be the best thing that could happen to MMA.

Americans are just too servile to rich people and let them get away with everything. I can't believe people actually defend the UFC capitalist model.
Look I agree with you in theory. You're a purist and I appreciate that. Unfortunately at the end of the day it's all about money, it always is. If we want the success of the sport it has to go mainstream. Once people become knowledgeable in MMA, then they will begin to appreciate it. The only way to get there however is to attract them with glitz and glamour.
 
TS, why the fuck do you care about NOT costing the UFC money?
 
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