I surrender John Jones is the GOAT.

[BarbellzNbacon]

JoHn vs Jon

Make it happen

 

[Alpha_T83]

His LHW legacy is set in stone regardless.

Not really. Multiple PED failures will haunt him.

Anderson Silva already isn't in GOAT discussions because of his steroid test failures. Wait until Jones retires and give it 5-10 years. Then let's see.

 

[Bowel-forged Stool]

wtf are you guys going to say when Jones makes beating the red coat look easy?

 

[Gamer2k4]

Unless Jon really plans on fighting Tom, I think he's fucked his legacy up by holding the belt hostage and trolling.

Only in the minds of the goldfish who think that that somehow negates all of this.

 

[Gamer2k4]

wtf are you guys going to say when Jones makes beating the red coat look easy?

Probably the same things they said about Gane - "Anyone with any sense could have told you Aspinall had nothing for Jones" and "it was the easiest matchup he could have taken" and all the rest.

 

[Alpha_T83]

Only in the minds of the goldfish who think that that somehow negates all of this.

ah you're one of those retards that think his PED failures won't haunt him lol

 

[Poirierfan]

It gets hard to keep up when shitlords make like 25 new threads a day!

I prefer to be referred to as pooplord, sir.

 

[Aurelian]

Not really. Multiple PED failures will haunt him.

Anderson Silva already isn't in GOAT discussions because of his steroid test failures. Wait until Jones retires and give it 5-10 years. Then let's see.

It depends on the person. I'm of the opinion everybody uses and back then passing a drug test was basically like passing an IQ test. Obviously Jon's IQ isn't that great.

All the GOATS used PEDs my boy. GSP is way too smart and knows way way way tooooo fucking much about steroids and how they work. That's all I'll say on that.

 

[Bowel-forged Stool]

I prefer to be referred to as pooplord, sir.

Bro I can’t go toe to toe with your slick fists, but quit jackin’ my shtick plz n ty

 

[Slapjit]

yo since wi doin' low effort post aboot JJ here's mine fam

 

[Bowel-forged Stool]

yo since wi doin' low effort post aboot JJ here's mine fam

Aspinall:

 

[Alpha_T83]

It depends on the person. I'm of the opinion everybody uses and back then passing a drug test was basically like passing an IQ test. Obviously Jon's IQ isn't that great.

All the GOATS used PEDs my boy. GSP is way too smart and knows way way way tooooo fucking much about steroids and how they work. That's all I'll say on that.

You can't make that assumption though because you have no evidence.

You literally can't say GSP used steroids because he's never failed a test. That's not how this works.

 

[Aurelian]

You can't make that assumption though because you have no evidence.

You literally can't say GSP used steroids because he's never failed a test. That's not how this works.

Yes the fuck I can. It's my opinion. Everybody used in that era. Go look at his fucking pictures.

Denial is more than a river in Egypt.

 

[Alpha_T83]

Yes the fuck I can. It's my opinion. Everybody used in that era. Go look at his fucking pictures.

Denial is more than a river in Egypt.

You can have an opinion but you'd be fucking retarded if you think you have any kind of proof or evidence that GSP used steroids.

History will condemn Jon Jones just like Anderson Silva is already written off in GOAT discussions.

 

[Aurelian]

You can have an opinion but you'd be fucking retarded if you think you have any kind of proof or evidence that GSP used steroids.

History will condemn Jon Jones just like Anderson Silva is already written off in GOAT discussions.

I never said I have proof. But in that era of MMA everybody was using. All the dominant fighters were on something.

GSP has a fucking PHD in how steroids work. That's odd if he never dabbled with them.

 

[Alpha_T83]

I never said I have proof. But in that era of MMA everybody was using. All the dominant fighters were on something.

GSP has a fucking PHD in how steroids work. That's odd if he never dabbled with them.

Even if you're right, that's still part of the game. You've gotta play the game and test clean.

Your logic is basically any fighter that at any point in their career took steroids is equally guilty with this cokehead wife beating clown that use 20x more steroids every day. It's not the same.

At the end of the day Jon's legacy will have a big asterisk beside it, and that asterisk is going to get even worse if he ducks Aspinall, and Tom goes on to defend the HW belt 4-5+ times and become the new UFC HW GOAT.

 

[Aurelian]

Even if you're right, that's still part of the game. You've gotta play the game and test clean.

Your logic is basically any fighter that at any point in their career took steroids is equally guilty with this cokehead wife beating clown that use 20x more steroids every day. It's not the same.

At the end of the day Jon's legacy will have a big asterisk beside it, and that asterisk is going to get even worse if he ducks Aspinall, and Tom goes on to defend the HW belt 4-5+ times and become the new UFC HW GOAT.

Fedor used, GSP used, Anderson used, Aldo used, and like 1000 other fighters used.

The testing was so fucking easy if you failed a test that means you're probably a dumb motherfucker. You can say that for Jon I guess. But.....yeah

 

[icemun]

T'is none GREATER



EVER

 

[pamirec]

Haha no way his eyes look like that.