I still believe that the best version of JDS beats Stipe.

[Matty da Ranga]

Look, I know Stipe has improved since his first fight against JDS, and KOd him in their second fight, but the version of JDS that we saw against Stipe even in their first fight seemed like a shell of himself compared to the one that rekd Carwin, Cro Cop, Mir, Struve, Nelson etc.
Obviously that was his first fight back from getting beaten down savagely by Cain for the second time. The deflating, soul-crushing damage and humiliation that he suffered at the hands of Cain made his confidence, reflexes, and chin far worse for the wear, and yet he still beat Stipe and outboxed him in the latter rounds while Stipe went 1/18 on takedown attempts. He also proved that his cardio was better than Stipe's on that night, and Stipe hasn't shown much improvement in that aspect since that fight.

I really believe that the slick boxing, stellar TDD, and great head movement of the prime JDS that tooled Carwin and KOd Cain would beat any version of Stipe.

 

[Tour'soverboyo]

Well, he did beat Stipe once

 

[Matty da Ranga]

Well, he did beat Stipe once

Well yes, but I'm saying that pre-Cain beatdown JDS would beat current prime Stipe, not the Stipe from 4 years ago.

 

[Post 2 Decision]

I had their first fight a draw with a 10-10 round or Miocic winning it...
Forget which specific round.

I know I'm in the minority

 

[muaytao]

stipe lost to struve and he think he can beat dc lol

 

[CroGunShoCop]

Stipe is the most well-rounded HW ever.
He beats JDS the majority of the times, prime for prime.

stipe lost to struve and he think he can beat dc lol

Stipe is going to beat Cormier everywhere.

 

[3sumrock]

I believe pre Cain jds would viciously ko any hw that’s not name Cain.
And I still believe current jds can beat stipe if he get his gameplan right

 

[Mixfight]

Stipe isnt even that good. Just a guy who fights 40 year olds and african brawlers with no ground game.

 

[Oj21]

I like stipe but the best version of a lot of the contenders beat him. Jds werdum and reem would all beat them if they were in their primes again. Stipe is good it's he's mostly faced old war-torn guys and ngannou who is inexperienced. That's why it's still betweee werdum nog and Cain for best hw

 

[3sumrock]

Stipe isnt even that good. Just a guy who fights 40 year olds and african brawlers with no ground game.

Fedor isn’t that good. Just a guy who got viciously ko’d by a 40 years old mw.
See I can do that too,saying nonsense.
Seriously you fedor fans are so insecure and pathetic

 

[Odoylerules4lyf]

That JDS is long dead.

 

[Frankie Baby!]

Stipe is the most well-rounded HW ever.
He beats JDS the majority of the times, prime for prime.

Stipe is going to beat Cormier everywhere.

 

[muaytao]

Stipe is the most well-rounded HW ever.
He beats JDS the majority of the times, prime for prime.

Stipe is going to beat Cormier everywhere.

Lol your delusional. Stipe is a one trick pony. He put himself into half guard his last fight when he was already in side control.

 

[tehShuffle]

Stipe is the most well-rounded HW ever.
He beats JDS the majority of the times, prime for prime.

Stipe is going to beat Cormier everywhere.

Stipe is a better counter puncher and that's it. No way he beats DC in the wrestling department.

 

[Frankie Baby!]

Prime JDS kills any version of Stipe

 

[Dorkman]

Lol your delusional. Stipe is a one trick pony. He put himself into half guard his last fight when he was already in side control.

Which is a move that certain wrestlers do on purpose(Which stipe has a backround in). It allows them to control their opponent better if going to mount isn't their immediate next move. Randy Couture detailed this very tactic, and his liking of using it while casting for the UFC stating it allows you to hip in on your opponent and really control their posture and movement. So you calling out randy too?

 

[superpunch]

Prime JDS kills any version of Stipe

We only have some evidence. The evidence is JDS was killed by Stipe. Stipe killed JDS.

 

[Frankie Baby!]

We only have some evidence. The evidence is JDS was killed by Stipe. Stipe killed JDS.

That was after the Cain beat downs. The JDS that KO'd Cain prolly beats every other HW.

 

[superpunch]

Which is a move that certain wrestlers do on purpose(Which stipe has a backround in). It allows them to control their opponent better if going to mount isn't their immediate next move. Randy Couture detailed this very tactic, and his liking of using it while casting for the UFC stating it allows you to hip in on your opponent and really control their posture and movement. So you calling out randy too?

Yeah, side control is fucking pointless. It only leads to mount -- which is really hard to get. Odds are you don't even get mount and just end up in a scramble back to the feet. And even if you get mount, mount is useless in modern MMA. You lose it in 5 seconds and can't do any damage from it.

Getting half guard is better because you can rain down punches and not have to worry too much about a scramble leading back to standing.

 

[muaytao]

Which is a move that certain wrestlers do on purpose(Which stipe has a backround in). It allows them to control their opponent better if going to mount isn't their immediate next move. Randy Couture detailed this very tactic, and his liking of using it while casting for the UFC stating it allows you to hip in on your opponent and really control their posture and movement. So you calling out randy too?

You’re an idiot. Stipe is a 1 trick pony. I didn’t even mention randy so shut the fuck up