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I keep seeing people claiming that they don't understand Silva, why he clowns "like that," why he pauses action and backs up on the cage.

Well I understand why you don't understand...

What Anderson does is try to goad his opponent into blowing their load; during this time he is energizing himself and once he senses the wave is done it's his turn. No fighter can sustain offensive barrages for long. No pun intended but I think there were at least 4 such cycles in this Bisping fight. Even though he has slowed down you aren't a true MA fan if you can't agree that his bobbing, weaving and rolling is still an amazing thing to behold. When asked in the past if he has learned anything (about his clowning,) and will make any changes he has always responded and held true to "I change nothing."

Bisping fought very well and intelligently and the decision under current reasons was probably right. I wish Anderson had the aggression and confidence he showed after round 2 earlier.

I feel that Anderson's is still about an impressive (given age and trauma) 80% of what he was pre Sonnen I. I also think that from that point on he became susceptible to being dropped.
 
I get what you're saying, but what I'm asking is why does Anderson have to clown around so much?
 
The problem with this last night was that he didn't return with enough offense and he paid for it on the scorecards.
 
I think some people understand it, but it's probably not as sound of a strategy as it once was for him. That being said, it's very difficult to imagine him changing that at this point in his career because it's one of the things that made him dominant for many years. I do still enjoy watching him perform as well as he did at his age. Being the type of fighter he is at nearly 41 yrs of age is remarkable in itself.
 
It's just his style. Look at MVP and other fighters who do the same thing
 
If you stand square like that at the cage, you are open to jabs and kicks to the body. It's his ego and also dumb. Learn boxing.
Anderson was lucky Bisping let him out and wasn't told to go to the body until the break.
 
I get what you're saying, but what I'm asking is why does Anderson have to clown around so much?

Then you don't get what I'm saying or are being a troll. When you aren't throwing and instead are clowning around a typical opponent sees that as an opening and as their responsibility attack. Being "clowned" tends to increase the anger/adrenaline and this of course abates/dumps after about 45 seconds of attacking.
 
The bobbing and the weaving doesn't do anything when the opponent is connecting.

If a fighter is going to stand in place with his hands down and invite his opponent to punch him, he better go out of his way to finish the fight, and soon, because all those landed punches count on the scorecards.
 
Yeah, it's a strategy, he's trying to get into his opponent's head, he uses it to counterattack, et cetera, et cetera.

Fuck it. Still love to see him getting fucking punched in the face when he lets his guard down and his chin up.
 
If you stand square like that at the cage, you are open to jabs and kicks to the body. It's his ego and also dumb. Learn boxing.
Anderson was lucky Bisping let him out and wasn't told to go to the body until the break.

No you are the one who is dumb and not understanding things. Go re-watch. In this fight and most of his others he gets tagged a little bit but for the most part is like I said bobbing, weaving and rolling just like many boxing greats.
 
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If you stand square like that at the cage, you are open to jabs and kicks to the body. It's his ego and also dumb. Learn boxing.

Arguably he learned to clown around like that from Boxing. He copied Muhammad Ali's showboating and the ducking and weaving. He learned that shit from boxing.
 
I keep seeing people claiming that they don't understand Silva, why he clowns "like that," why he pauses action and backs up on the cage.

Well I understand why you don't understand... it's because you are fu(@*)8'n idiots.

What Anderson does is try to goad his opponent into blowing their load; during this time he is energizing himself and once he senses the wave is done it's his turn. No fighter can sustain offensive barrages for long. No pun intended but I think there were at least 4 such cycles in this Bisping fight. Even though he has slowed down you aren't a true MA fan if you can't agree that his bobbing, weaving and rolling is still an amazing thing to behold. When asked in the past if he has learned anything (about his clowning,) and will make any changes he has always responded and held true to "I change nothing."

Bisping fought very well and intelligently and the decision under current reasons was probably right. I wish Anderson had the aggression and confidence he showed after round 2 earlier.

I feel that Anderson's is still about an impressive (given age and trauma) 80% of what he was pre Sonnen I. I also think that from that point on he became susceptible to being dropped.

I was still impressed with Silva and enjoyed the fight. However, Rockhold owned lisping in like one round I think it was. I want to see VITOR vs SILVA II
 
Yeah, it's a strategy, he's trying to get into his opponent's head, he uses it to counterattack, et cetera, et cetera.

Fuck it. Still love to see him getting fucking punched in the face when he lets his guard down and his chin up.
Imagine Romero landing those punches Bisping did.
 
what i have found to be really surprising is that anderson has stood with his back to the cage in a number of fights yet bisping seemed to have zero plan or clue on how to react

anderson was flat footed and off balance in many spots against the cage yet bisping was just completely dumbfounded to the point where hed rather anderson counter attack him in the center of the cage where anderson has exponentially more options and significantly more power
 
I think the biggest surprise in the fight was not Bisping winning but Bisping dropping Silva in the 2nd round.
 
what i have found to be really surprising is that anderson has stood with his back to the cage in a number of fights yet bisping seemed to have zero plan or clue on how to react

anderson was flat footed and off balance in many spots against the cage yet bisping was just completely dumbfounded to the point where hed rather anderson counter attack him in the center of the cage where anderson has exponentially more options and significantly more power

I was surprised by this as well.
 
I keep seeing people claiming that they don't understand Silva, why he clowns "like that," why he pauses action and backs up on the cage.

Well I understand why you don't understand... it's because you are fu(@*)8'n idiots.

What Anderson does is try to goad his opponent into blowing their load; during this time he is energizing himself and once he senses the wave is done it's his turn. No fighter can sustain offensive barrages for long. No pun intended but I think there were at least 4 such cycles in this Bisping fight. Even though he has slowed down you aren't a true MA fan if you can't agree that his bobbing, weaving and rolling is still an amazing thing to behold. When asked in the past if he has learned anything (about his clowning,) and will make any changes he has always responded and held true to "I change nothing."

Bisping fought very well and intelligently and the decision under current reasons was probably right. I wish Anderson had the aggression and confidence he showed after round 2 earlier.

I feel that Anderson's is still about an impressive (given age and trauma) 80% of what he was pre Sonnen I. I also think that from that point on he became susceptible to being dropped.

No, I think you're the fucking idiot. If you've ever been staggered or staggered an opponent you would understand that there is a window of opportunity to finish the fight. Anderson saw the window and seemingly stopped in spite of it, backing himself up, pausing, allowing a recovery, clowning, etc. Old Anderson capitalized on every staggered opponent. When he rocked Belfort he didn't walk away and goad him, he threw a massive straight down the pipe to seal the deal. When he rocked Bonnar he didn't run away and act like he won prematurely, he finished the job. Franklin? same shit. Don't tell me you get what he did yesterday, you do not. No one does, and no one will.
 
I get what you're saying, but what I'm asking is why does Anderson have to clown around so much?

At this point, I think the clowning is the only tool that Silva has left.

His pure speed and reflex advantage is waning in his old age, along with his strength and stamina. He has to lean more heavily on taunting to draw his opponents into sloppy exchanges, where he can counter strike, because he can't rely on his chin/power/speed/strength/etc.
 
Bispint didnt win the figh. Silva lost it.
 
Then you don't get what I'm saying or are being a troll. When you aren't throwing and instead are clowning around a typical opponent sees that as an opening and as their responsibility attack. Being "clowned" tends to increase the anger/adrenaline and this of course abates/dumps after about 45 seconds of attacking.

Okay Mr. Miagi. Pretty much everyone on Sherdog knows what Anderson is doing when he's clowning. It's not some big mystery that you've just unraveled for everyone. The question is, with his deteriorating reflexes and chin, and with an opponent like Bisping who is available to be hit, is it still an effective strategy. That's the only debate.
 
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