How to make someone much taller lower their stance

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  1. Superhet

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    How would you make someone much taller bend their legs and/or waist, so their body gets closer to you being able to hit them with a knee at a good angle? Just hit them to the body?
     
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    Get close then BAAAAAM


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    Poh, you specifically want to knee a taller opponent in the head? Sure you could try hitting their body until they buckle, but it only gives you a split second opportunity.. Another way is cornering them, spamming fast punches until they cover up, and jumping knee in (Nieky Holzken style). But again, jumping knees, good luck with that..

    IMO your best bet is the clinch. Get a grip high on the back of their head, crank down hard, start dragging them off balance, knees to body and head.

    Of course closing the distance and getting the clinch is difficult against a taller opponent, but once you've grabbed their head the shorter fighter should have the advantage.
     
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    Oh no, not the head. I want to knee them to the body and get them to cover up and duck/bend into it so I can get a good, hard knee and not a glancing one.
     
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    dude they´re freaking taller then you, it´s a freak occurance they will buckle so much the shorter fighter can land a high knee considering you also gotta time and find it in that moment, if they are significantly taller.

    In mma with the grappling it works
     
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    do you spar people or just watch movies ?

    In movies people bend over after getting hit to the belly

    In pro fights they usually shake it of and if they´re hurt try to back peddle and regain their senses, or if it really hurt him they fall to the ground.

    They don´t really lean forward with their head like a hollywood movie for you to finish with a knee
     
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    Gee maybe that's why I'm asking? to see if anyone can think of something neat to cause someone to lower their stance a bit? what the fvck is movie-like about wanting to hit someone in the ribs with a knee? I don't want to hit them in the head, I said so in the last post...
     
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    that changes everything, the thread looks like you are asking if you should hit them to the body so they bend over and you knee their head. Nobody figures these people are so much bigger then you that they even have to lower their stance for you to be able to knee their mid section. Ok get it.
     
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    Ignore him. Don't worry about lowering the stance itself, because that is neither here nor there. I get why you'd think you need to lower the stance but you actually don't. Unless he was literally a fairy tale giant, your knee will be able to reach his chest so long as you make sure you stretch regularly.

    What you want to do is either use switch knees, where you use your stance change to hide the knee in kind of like a march almost:
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    (see how high this knee can go, bare in mind he IS taller than his opponent, but if you look at the bend of his hips you'll see he doesn't actually need to get them that high.)

    Alternatively you can use what get frequently called "sky piercing knees" because of Dieselnoi. The intention behind the knee strike isn't to knee straight out like conventional wisdom would tell you but to instead knee UP. From a closer distance bring your rear leg straight up from the ground and turn your hips in on the knee and make contact with not only the knee but the shin as well. It will feel awkward, but it's one of quite a few advanced knee strikes you could use and the one I feel fits your situation the most.

    Here's a video for reference:


    In Muay Thai and Combat Sambo I specialise in punching and knee combinations, so I hope that helps you!

    EDIT: just so you know as well, these knee strikes WILL work regardless of your height, Dieselnoi himself was taller, but the lady in the video is a knee fighter herself with over 150 fights in Thailand who uses those same knees all the time (after being taught them) despite being around the 5 foot mark
     
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    He never said he wanted to hit the head. Knee strikes are strong, and TS is probably decent at them so he wants to find out how to still implement his game on an opponent who's attributes might happen throw it off.

    His coach won't let that fly anyways as its dangerous in sparring, and most sanctioning bodies don't allow knees to head in the clinch unless you get to A-class (10+ fights). Intermediate and beginner, its banned. Its a combat sport, so they'll practice based on the applied ruleset.
     
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    I´m not a troll I literally understood the op wrong
     
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    I didn't say you were trolling him, you just were just being an ass.
     
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    it comes off that way if you actually got the meaning of the thread , I totally though he asked "Just hit them to the body?" as in the sence "Just hit them to the body - so they bend over and I knee their head"

    I thought that was ridiculous, so I failed to comprehend his meaning. Hence I was mocking it.
     
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    If you can't read the OP properly then that's on you. You haven't been here that long assuming this is your first account, but people will get sick of you fast if you're immediate response to everything you don't like/find stupid is to be in ass, which you've done a lot already.

    Only fair that I should let you know, merry christmas
     
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    I actualy only bother to point out what is wrong

    lol
     
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    Then do it without the prickish attitude you've had on every thread.

    Happy holidays
     
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