How to deal with a loss

Discussion in 'Grappling Technique' started by ozyabbas, May 13, 2008.

  1. ozyabbas Purple Belt

    Joined:
    Jan 14, 2007
    Messages:
    2,318
    Likes Received:
    0
    I had my first tournament on Sunday, I lost twice, once in gi and the other in no gi. I wasn't too pissed off about the first one because the guy was from my club, he usually outperforms me and others in class and he won fair and square. I didn't impose my game as I planned to but I know what to do next time.

    The next match was in no gi, I hadn't really thought of a game plan because I only decided on doing it a few days before the match and had only done no gi training twice in the last 8 months. I was in (rubber guard) and closed guard and had many submission attempts which he powered out from (mainly due to the sweat). I opened my guard to try something new towards the end. He tried to guard passes which were no where near close to passing. Then it finished and the judges awarded to the other guy, saying that he was more aggressive. Although we both didn't win any points, I still thought I was the most aggressive guy. He then gets a lame victory on someone else without even having attempted anything. Just standing for 6 minutes with only defending an armdrag as the only thing he did.

    I feel really burnt out now, im not sure to get back to the gym now or give it a week or so.
     
  2. codemonkey76 Black Belt

    Joined:
    Oct 1, 2006
    Messages:
    5,312
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Brisbane, Australia
    how did you end up on the ground, did anyone get takedown points, or did you pull guard?... i have lost in similar fashion in the gi, the guy went for a takedown and i sprawled but he got an advantage point for the near takedown, then i pulled guard and tried to submit him for the full time limit, with him defending the whole time.
    <object width="425" height="355"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/wSmV3amo2mk&hl=en"></param><param name="wmode" value="transparent"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/wSmV3amo2mk&hl=en" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" width="425" height="355"></embed></object>
     
  3. mmyers Orange Belt

    Joined:
    Jan 28, 2008
    Messages:
    263
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada
    I only had one tournament (no gi) and im new as well (1.5-2months) and id suggest you rest if it feels like your body needs rest and if you feel upto training then train. Same as usual. As for emotionally you dont seem to beat up, just be proud of the fact that you went out and did it and hopefully performed your best. If you keep learning and working your only going to get better.

    Good luck
     
  4. ozyabbas Purple Belt

    Joined:
    Jan 14, 2007
    Messages:
    2,318
    Likes Received:
    0
    Someone from my team told me he was a judo guy so I literally ran and jumped into guard. Pulling on his head to break his posture down so I could go for a high guard. I almost knocked him down just from the running jump. I asked the judges beforehand if I get a penalty or anything like that and they said it would be fine.

    He literally did not mount any kind of attack on me at all. The only thing I could give him props for is that he defended the submission attempts well.

    Under the rules we were fighting (adcc) there were no advantage points but he wouldn't of had any advantages anyway.

    Perhaps it was because the judges were from the large mma organisation and they would probably normally consider the guard just a defensive position. Well thats my theory anyway.

    There was another great injustice, a friend of mine brought his students to the tournament. One of his students got the other guy in the electric chair but the judge stopped it saying the guy needs to rearrange his contact lenses. They restarted it from standing again. I believe that the judge probably didn't even know what the electric chair was and how close the guy was from being submitted.
     
  5. Legacy Orange Belt

    Joined:
    May 8, 2008
    Messages:
    442
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    San Diego
    Just brush it off bro. In any sport you have the possibility of getting bad decisions from the officals. Losing isnt bad at all. You learned a lot more from losing then you would have from winning. It sucks the judges were bad but its no big deal. Hope my words helped on a different level.
     
  6. Deloitte Blue Belt

    Joined:
    Dec 24, 2007
    Messages:
    866
    Likes Received:
    0
    Are you missing something? He took you down at 50 seconds, that wasn't a guard pull.
     
  7. the heed Look at the size of that boy's heed.

    Joined:
    Feb 24, 2004
    Messages:
    5,786
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    California
    doesn't consider a take down when he can't maintain control for at least 3 seconds. He will get an advantage but no points.
     
  8. armbarking Green Belt

    Joined:
    Aug 18, 2006
    Messages:
    994
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    New York
    Considering he ended up getting to side control and was there for a few seconds (doesn't matter if you guys are going in a circle or not, he had side control), i could definitely see him at least getting an advantage for that. If I were you I'd be pissed about the restart at the end when you get the guy 1 arm in 1 arm out! WTF?! Why the restart? You probably would've triangled him there.

    To the threadstarter; get back in the gym and start training. going 0-2 should motivate you to get back at it ASAP, not take a break.
     
  9. judofarmerbob Banned Banned

    Joined:
    Feb 21, 2008
    Messages:
    296
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    IIII OOOO WAAAAA
    you need an attitude adjustment dude. moping doesn't make you a better athlete. work harder.
     
  10. Deloitte Blue Belt

    Joined:
    Dec 24, 2007
    Messages:
    866
    Likes Received:
    0
    I said 50 seconds.
     
  11. dallas405 Green Belt

    Joined:
    Sep 23, 2007
    Messages:
    1,041
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Oklahoma City
    if you compete you will end up losing, especially because it sounds like your new, dont be a baby.
     
  12. BCarr Blue Belt

    Joined:
    Jun 8, 2007
    Messages:
    939
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Orange County, CA
    Hey...don't sweat it. Walk it off. Rub some dirt on it. Get back in the gym. You win some, you lose some. Every dog has his day.

    Enough sayings for ya? Point is....you have to snap yourself out of this. It isn't a big deal, but you are the only one who can make you keep training and get back in there and learn from your experiences.

    Funny note: we had a purple belt last year who lost his no-gi match, then lost his gi match. Well, apparently there was some sand-bagging and a couple guys who didn't make weight down the line, so our guy ended up tied for first. Sometimes....thing just happen. Don't take it that seriously at this point.
     
  13. Tony Manifold Brown Belt

    Joined:
    Nov 7, 2005
    Messages:
    2,773
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Victoria, BC
    Here is what I do:

    Curse
    Swear
    Claim it was a work
    vow vengance
    shake his hand
    Smile
    Hit the gym harder
    try harder next time
    Avenge the loss

    Some times I kick things. I hate to lose but it normally only lasts about 30 seconds then my irish temper dies down.:icon_chee Seriously, in those cases you just have to let it slide. Any time you leave it to the judges opinion, you are at fault for not dominating. I once lost a silver medal match at the provinical championships in judo because the judge wanted to go home. I got hit with a tomoe nage but cartwheel out of it to land on my knees on top in North/south. They called it an ippon. I was pretty furious. There was no way that was an Ippon but the bottom line was I let him throw me. If he didn't throw me, there would have been no arguement.
     
  14. SMillard Red Belt

    Joined:
    Jan 8, 2007
    Messages:
    8,603
    Likes Received:
    28
    Location:
    America's wang
    go out get drunk, hire a hooker and after your debaucherous pity party resume training. Doesn't sound like it was that embarrassing of a performance so I wouldn't get too down about it.
     
  15. Gary Peters Purple Belt Professional Fighter

    Joined:
    Oct 31, 2006
    Messages:
    2,025
    Likes Received:
    0
    I'm not a huge fan of BJJ tournaments anymore because of the wrestlers who will get a takedown and turtle for 5 minutes and win by a point or two. I train for MMA anyway but im glad I did the tournaments I did as a white belt. It really helped me learn what it was all about and how to combat nervousness.
     
  16. Deloitte Blue Belt

    Joined:
    Dec 24, 2007
    Messages:
    866
    Likes Received:
    0
    :icon_cry2
     
  17. Tony Manifold Brown Belt

    Joined:
    Nov 7, 2005
    Messages:
    2,773
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Victoria, BC
    Well said.
     
  18. ro1em0de1 Yurple Belt

    Joined:
    Oct 15, 2006
    Messages:
    1,601
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Boise, ID
    just get yourself into another tourny as fast as possible..
     
  19. Chinaboxer Blue Belt

    Joined:
    Feb 25, 2008
    Messages:
    743
    Likes Received:
    0
    Do as Kron does...submit them so there is no doubt!
     
  20. YeahBee Samdog Original Nine

    Joined:
    Jun 19, 2006
    Messages:
    24,942
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Land of the Ice and Snow
    waht is an elctric chair?

    Some quotes

     

Share This Page

X
  1. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register.
    By continuing to use this site, you are consenting to our use of cookies.