How much of Cyborg’s success is due to size and strength?

[KB Warrior]

And how much do you attribute to superior martial arts technique?

 

[fiftywattmafia]

Less than people think...and are about to say. In fact I think Holly Holm and that Russian mail order bride had equal to more strength to Cris and showed that with their ability to play wall and stall as long as they did.

 

[TriangleMonkey]

Benefits of previous heavy use of steroids id say for one, she looks like a lab experiment.

 

[hedidhisownstunts]

you mean drugs? i think she took a lot of fucking drugs and worked hard like an animal. she's scary, but i don't think her technique is extraordinarily skilled at all.

 

[TheVenom]

She hits like a man. That’s a huge part of it. She clearly has technique but she’s hurting these women everytime she connects.

 

[Towerworld]

And how much do you attribute to superior martial arts technique?

Cyborg is strong but her strength greatly exaggerated, Holly was pinning her against the wall pretty easily and looked like the stronger fighter in the clinch. But then, Cyborg took the fight through better head movement and better countering ability while Holly used the same combination over and over.

 

[RollsRoyceGracie]

Ruthless Aggression > Strength > Size

Cyborg just happens to possess all 3.

 

[eiyuu]

She can walk through almost all women's punches thanks to her chemically enhanced manjaw.

And she's cutting from 175 lbs to make 145 lbs.

But no . . . that's not helping her at all.

 

[BigMuffler]

As a semi-Cyborg hater not as much as her biggest detractors think, she looked more skilled than Holly in their fight. But Holly is a one-dimensional striker anyway, Cyborg might've been troubled more by grappling in her career if not for her physicality (that and she has never faced an elite wrestler/takedown artist anyway). Back in the day Tate/Zingano would've been a good test for her in that aspect, now maybe Ketlen?

 

[squatchi26]

OP credits size to Cyborgs wins over smaller fighters and then slobs over conners balls when he wins(vs smaller fighters)

 

[Kassitus]

No more than Stipe or Jones.

 

[thobra]

I think the Holly fight showed us she has a lot of technique. Holly looked both bigger and stronger, while Cyborg just looked like a much better fighter. Even in the standup that should be Hollys area. That doesn't mean many of the other girls are stronger than Cyborg. Most are not.

I think Cyborgs biggest strength is her toughness and technique, but of course her strength is very useful in a lot of fights, where she might outpower better grapplers. I really don't see any of the current girls can outwrestle her.

Chael had a prediction, like normal, that some wrestler could beat Cyborg.
That wrestler would need Hollys strength, Chaels chin, toughness and willingness to get hit on the way in, and great cardio. I don't know who that should be in the womens diviosion.

 

[A.S. Deep]

Her power and aggression are that of a man's. Her size helps with power, but her killer mentality is definitely her own.

 

[Terpizzle]

It also helps when an invicta champion gets touched once and turtles up.

 

[BigMuffler]

No more than Stipe or Jones.

Stipe is a big HW?

 

[Recent]

Look at how easily Jorina Baars handled her and there's your answer.

 

[Kassitus]

Stipe is a big HW?

6'4 250 lbs. Yes.

 

[KB Warrior]

Stipe is a big HW?

Didn’t you see him toss around that manlet Ngannou?

 

[BigMuffler]

6'4 250 lbs. Yes.

Not significantly bigger than average or having a large advantage over many of his opponents...

 

[BigMuffler]

Didn’t you see him toss around that manlet Ngannou?

He's 6'4 and usually around 245, that's a pretty average HW