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[Jeandoozz]

What the hell are you talking about? What rigorist views? If you dont pray, dont fast, drink alcohol, eat pork, steal, murder, etc....I cant call you a non-practising muslim? You sound very leftist....

you were talking about muslims that don't eat pork and wear religious signs. And you didn't says "non practising" but that "they call themselves muslim". Don't rewrite history if you want to have an calm discussion.

Honest question : from where you are being leftist means shouting "fundamentalist !" to everyone or what ? I just don't see the relation with the topic.

 

[tramendous]

I'm a muslim too, but I didn't know we are not allowed to shake hands with women

Its debated between scholars so some Muslims err on the side of caution.

 

[Peli]

She didn’t know KHABIB NURMAGOMEDOV was Muslim? Huh. I don’t blame her, I mean who could ever guess a man named KHABIB NURMAGOMEDOV could ever be muslim.

It's not like he was The Eagle when she met him. He didn't have the lore or the fame he had now. Probably didn't know his name. The way the Americans bastardize his name probably doesn't help if she did know his name.

 

[Booksmasher]

you were talking about muslims that don't eat pork and wear religious signs. And you didn't says "non practising" but that "they call themselves muslim". Don't rewrite history if you want to have an calm discussion.

Honest question : from where you are being leftist means shouting "fundamentalist !" to everyone or what ? I just don't see the relation with the topic.

And they also didnt fast. If you dont fast well thats a big no no. Thats the typical non-practising muslim. Even alot of non-practising still fast in ramadhan.

 

[shoshaf]

What the hell are you talking about? What rigorist views? If you dont pray, dont fast, drink alcohol, eat pork, steal, murder, etc....I cant call you a non-practising muslim? You sound very leftist....

There are people that eat pork and still pray 5 times a day without exception. Would you still call them non-practicing Muslims or not "real" Muslims? Then anyone who actually murders can't be a practicing Christian either by your logic, but plenty of Nazi's were practicing Christians.

 

[Peli]

I'm a muslim too, but I didn't know we are not allowed to shake hands with women

Only in most conservative countries or among fundamentalists conservative Muslims. Some girl tried to shake khabib's hand in abu-dhabi the last time he fought there and he took a picture but no handshake

It leads me to believe it's ok in abu-dhabi.

 

[Peli]

Not true. A muslim shakes non-muslim hands.



He's not muslim but christian. I thought he was muslim just because of the name (not by the actions) but it turns out they convertes to christianity.



Its true. Muslims are not allowed to touch the other gender, unless its husband-wife or a relative.



Muslims see women as precious diamonds. They are exclusive for their husbands, not for public. A practising muslim woman is modest and will not show off her body to the public. They are like locks. A good lock can only be opened by one key. A bad lock can be opened by many many keys.

That's objectifying a woman in the worst way. She belongs to someone. She's not her own person. I don't agree with this but I have to respect the culture. If I was lived among a country like that, maybe I'd get the full perspective so I try not to judge too harshly

 

[Booksmasher]

There are people that eat pork and still pray 5 times a day without exception.

Ive never heard of this. You just made that up. If abstaining from pork is already hard to do for this guy....what about praying 5 times a day.....

 

[Booksmasher]

That's objectifying a woman in the worst way. She belongs to someone. She's not her own person. I don't agree with this but I have to respect the culture. If I was lived among a country like that, maybe I'd get the full perspective so I try not to judge too harshly

Well the woman and thr children are beneath the leader of the family unit (the husband). Every unit needs a leader, or else there is chaos. A country has to have a leader. A city too. The family too. It has always worked that way. Only some feminists 60 years ago thought they could do it better.

 

[shoshaf]

Ive never heard of this. You just made that up. If abstaining from pork is already hard to do for this guy....what about praying 5 times a day.....

I've seen it plenty of times in France. Praying five times a day isn't just about prayer to a lot of people, it's almost like being able to reset yourself in the middle of the day, which is a huge benefit. It also puts you in a nice Circadian sleeping pattern which can be extremely beneficial. Some people like that aspect(praying), but feel as if laws on eating pork are outdated because of the times(probably because eating pork was associated to certain diseases that were a lot more prevalent in the past). I know man, Muslims can have different beliefs and practices, what a crazy concept.

 

[Peli]

Well the woman and thr children are beneath the leader of the family unit (the husband). Every unit needs a leader, or else there is chaos. A country has to have a leader. A city too. The family too. It has always worked that way. Only some feminists 60 years ago thought they could do it better.

That's a redherring. I'm not talking about who leads the family. I'm talking about objectifying women as property. Comparing them to diamonds as you call it.


It doesn't sit well with me. I'm a fan of many Muslim fights and Muslim celebrities but that part annoys me. The explanation. I guess I ha e to go to dagestan or places like it to fully understand why it's like that.

There are plenty countries that didn't practice hijab. The re-emergenceof the hijab is something just as recent as feminism. You can find old pictures of Arabia, Iran and stuff of women walking around without them on.

 

[Booksmasher]

That's a redherring. I'm not talking about who leads the family. I'm talking about objectifying women as property. Comparing them to diamonds as you call it.

Property? Thats not true. Dont lie man. If a real practising muslim women wantsnto marry she knows long time before what the deal is. Obeying the husband is a part of that. And it doesnt means she cant have anything to say. She ofcourse can suggest and advice, but the last word is with the husband.

It doesn't sit well with me. I'm a fan of many Muslim fights and Muslim celebrities but that part annoys me.

Thats because you are infected by western liberalism, which is a flawed system.

 

[Area809]

Some western women have big egos. What was weird to me is she was saying “Oh I didn’t know he was Muslim,” but I would wager most Muslims would shake a woman’s hand in western countries, almost like she lives in a box.

I don’t know much about her, but she does seem a little ignorant in this particular case.

 

[Peli]

Property? Thats not true. Dont lie man. If a real practising muslim women wantsnto marry she knows long time before what the deal is. Obeying the husband is a part of that. And it doesnt means she cant have anything to say. She ofcourse can suggest and advice, but the last word is with the husband.



Thats because you are infected by western liberalism, which is a flawed system.

Mate you just referred to women as diamonds and said they belong to husbands. That's property. You never heard people say men's beauty are exclusive for their wives or people comparing men to material objects

My parents are still married. They've been married a long time. First marriage only married. If they are flawed, I haven't seen it yet.

 

[Peli]

I don’t know much about her, but she does seem a little ignorant in this particular case.

Not her fault. She probably doesn't encounter alot of conservative fundamentalists Muslims. Probably encounters way more conservative fundamentalists evangelical Christians more than anything

 

[Peli]

Ive never heard of this. You just made that up. If abstaining from pork is already hard to do for this guy....what about praying 5 times a day.....

Are you really suggesting they're are no Muslims that eat pork? Come on. There are Muslims that drink and smoke that pray five times a day. Not being perfect doesn't prevent anyone from being Muslim

 

[Booksmasher]

Mate you just referred to women as diamonds and said they belong to husbands. That's property.

Because I said wives belong to their husbands (and not other men) and they are like diamonds (precious, beauty), you conclude they are property? Omg...

In Islam, women have rights which men have to fulfill. And also women are allowed to annul the marriage. So where is your property story?

My parents are still married. They've been married a long time. First marriage only married. If they are flawed, I haven't seen it yet.

Nice story, but this nice story is dissapearing more and more in the west. And besides that, they secretly all have affairs....

 

[shoshaf]

Property? Thats not true. Dont lie man. If a real practising muslim women wantsnto marry she knows long time before what the deal is. Obeying the husband is a part of that. And it doesnt means she cant have anything to say. She ofcourse can suggest and advice, but the last word is with the husband.



Thats because you are infected by western liberalism, which is a flawed system.

Again, you're wrong. I know for a fact that in places like Afghanistan, in certain instances women have absolutely no choice in the husbands they will have to marry. Your problem is you think Islam is one thing. An extremely narrow view that doesn't hold up under the most basic scrutiny.

 

[Booksmasher]

Are you really suggesting they're are no Muslims that eat pork?

No, where did I say that? You should learn english mate, or stop making stuff up.

Come on. There are Muslims that drink and smoke that pray five times a day.

If youre a drinker, something is very very wrong with his Islam. He could still be muslim, but he has very very weak faith. Nobody in the muslim community considers that guy a practising muslim, even if he shows you he prays.

Not being perfect doesn't prevent anyone from being Muslim

Again, making stuff up and strawmanning. When did I said that? Nobody is perfect. But the people you are talking about are considered non-practising muslims.

 

[Peli]

Because I said wives belong to their husbands (and not other men) and they are like diamonds (precious, beauty), you conclude they are property? Omg...

In Islam, women have rights which men have to fulfill. And also women are allowed to annul the marriage. So where is your property story?



Nice story, but this nice story is dissapearing more and more in the west. And besides that, they secretly all have affairs....

I mean, yeah they have the power to divorce, but the man holds the power of the family and the wealth should they divorce in a non-western country. In the caucaus, you can divorce but the man gets the kids. Its pretty hard for women to see their children in some cases because of this so they stay.

In some countries and cultures, they practice Triple Talaq marriages. I saw an indonesian woman's brother beat some guys ass because He talaq'd his wife right on the spot.

I'm not privy to my parents relationships or if they have extramarital affairs, but compared to the adults around them that I watched growing up, my parents seem to be alright. My parents allows my dad to be head of the household and structures as a traditional marriage. We're in the west. What my dad doesn't do is say his beauty is reserved for himself or restrict her from certain things. They work alright.