How Max prepares himself without sparring?

FIghtxIQ said:
If you already know how to fight you don't need hard sparring anymore. You can build that conditioning without hard sparring, you just take extra damage if you are always hard sparring. It's muscle memory and you can work your timing and everything else without hard sparring. Since people's timing is different it's not really going to be like the person you are fighting unless the sparring partner can match their speed, timing and technique. If not you will just get used to someone else's timing/techniques and not the person you are fighting. I personally do a lot of visualization, but I understand not everyone can train that way. I can visualize moves in front of me and I'll use the same speed/technique as the person I'm visualizing fighting. I also shadow box during fights like I'm fighting them. So I can react to their actual combos in their fights with the same speed and techniques they throw it at.
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You never need hard sparring.
 
EVERYONE does light sparring.. it's completely essential for anyone doing competition.

Just doing drills is like a tennis player only practicing predictable drills with a tennis ball machine.. you need to practice the rythum, adapting to an opponent, managing the unpredictable / free flow conditions of a fight..
 
Flammenwerfer said:
He 100% still spars. Probably just goes light, no heavy head shots
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He spars the same ways the Thai fighters do, he says it all the time. He stopped hard sparring after going to Thailand and training muay thai with the Thai fighters. They don't spar hard because they fight so much. They do light technical touch sparring to work timing, distance, range without the extra damage.
 
Walter Melon said:
You never need hard sparring.
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It's needed at first, to get you used to that level of intensity and to get you to be comfortable in those type of moments before having them in real competition. You have to know that feeling already and how you are going to react to strikes. It's not best to try and figure that out in competition. Learning how to relax and fight through that type of intensity and to get used to the feeling of hard shots is needed in training before doing it in competition. You have to learn how to be able to think during those moments, that's why it's needed early on. But once you know how to fight and have the muscle memory, it's not needed as much. Boxers still train and spar hard though, their sparring culture is way different than mma sparring culture. But mma fighters don't like using head gear and boxers always use head gear for hard sparring.
 
FIghtxIQ said:
It's needed at first, to get you used to that level of intensity and to get you to be comfortable in those type of moments before having them in real competition. You have to know that feeling already and how you are going to react to strikes. It's not best to try and figure that out in competition. Learning how to relax and fight through that type of intensity and to get used to the feeling of hard shots is needed in training before doing it in competition. You have to learn how to be able to think during those moments, that's why it's needed early on. But once you know how to fight and have the muscle memory, it's not needed as much. Boxers still train and spar hard though, their sparring culture is way different than mma sparring culture. But mma fighters don't like using head gear and boxers always use head gear for hard sparring.
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No it isn't.
 
Walter Melon said:
No it isn't.
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Yes it is. You don't wait to figure out how you react to hard shots in the fight. You do that before competition. Do you take your driving test without practicing driving? Or do you practice driving before the driving test?
 
textwarrior said:
She said she does not run because she is getting older? lol, ...I know she said she does not like to run but I do not know if that meant she does not run? that was on the recent Joe Rogan Podcast. But, yeah she said she trains differently than the conventional way.

She seems to like the old school natural way of just sparring all the time. Not just striking, but everything, at once all the time....then non stop and pads for cardio too. I like to know how she trains, she is very smart at her approach imo.
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The training once a day is because she is getting mature as an athlete. IMO there isn't much for her to learn anymore. It's one training session and done. She isn't a prized fighter but instead a lifelong martial artist. You know how people stop training when they don't have a fight. She is training 6 days a week fight or no fight. Of course she changes intensity if there is a camp. They are interesting people. They learn how to shoot competitively or fly a plane during their downtime.

The running part is just her saying she doesn't run.
 
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FIghtxIQ said:
Yes it is. You don't wait to figure out how you react to hard shots in the fight. You do that before competition. Do you take your driving test without practicing driving? Or do you practice driving before the driving test?
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no, it isn't

Stop acting like you know shit about shit. Everywhere in the world from Muay Thai and Lethwei to Boxing they don't do hard sparring. Only in the USA has it been considered normal. In the last 10 years a lot of gyms have recognized the error of their bullshit who continued to do so.

Stop talking like you've done fuck all in combat sports.
 
The Robbie Lawler approach.

He already knows how to fight. Now to avoid unnecessary damage he avoids sparring and focuses on technique.

Every fighter as they age should take this approach.
 
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HaulParris said:
I hope that more people in MMA embrace this, and get away from the old-school "gym wars" mentality that has negatively impacted the careers of dudes like Wanderlei
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Yep. Totally agree. Back in the day, with the caveman training methods, every training session ended in wars between teammates.
 
Walter Melon said:
no, it isn't

Stop acting like you know shit about shit. Everywhere in the world from Muay Thai and Lethwei to Boxing they don't do hard sparring. Only in the USA has it been considered normal. In the last 10 years a lot of gyms have recognized the error of their bullshit who continued to do so.

Stop talking like you've done fuck all in combat sports.
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You don't know shit. All the high level fighters have done hard sparring. This isn't muay thai. They don't do it because they fight so much, because the pay is lower so they have to fight constantly to make money. Fighters get paid more for boxing and mma and don't have to fight as frequently so a lot do much more hard sparring. You really think you know more than all the high level and elite level boxers/mma fighters? It's you that doesn't know shit. Hard sparring is needed so you know where you stand vs certain styles and fighters at certain levels. You do that before you compete with that level. That's how boxing sparring works. That's how they gauge skill level. They are practice fights.

Once you've had enough hard sparring and actually have fights. You don't need as much hard sparring if you know how to work your conditioning/timing/speed/etc without taking the damage. Not everyone can so most still do hard sparring instead. Every training camp currently for high/elite level pro boxers is filled with rounds and rounds and rounds of hard sparring. Just shows you don't train with any high level fighters in any combat sport. I prefer to not spar hard anymore, but that's because I've done a shit load of rounds of hard sparring already with high level fighters in mma/boxing and I have actual fights. I know how to do it without needing to do hard sparring anymore.

You just exposed yourself as a noob. Think twice before you comment me again.
 
Herwald said:
Dude has had six 5 round fights in a row. Ortega was stopped at the end of the 4th. I think the dude has overdosed on cage time.
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I figure he's like Lawler and doesn't want to end up retarded like many of his old rivals and just had the experience to not need it.
 
FIghtxIQ said:
You don't know shit. All the high level fighters have done hard sparring. This isn't muay thai. They don't do it because they fight so much, because the pay is lower so they have to fight constantly to make money. Fighters get paid more for boxing and mma and don't have to fight as frequently so a lot do much more hard sparring. You really think you know more than all the high level and elite level boxers/mma fighters? It's you that doesn't know shit. Hard sparring is needed so you know where you stand vs certain styles and fighters at certain levels. You do that before you compete with that level. That's how boxing sparring works. That's how they gauge skill level. They are practice fights.

Once you've had enough hard sparring and actually have fights. You don't need as much hard sparring if you know how to work your conditioning/timing/speed/etc without taking the damage. Not everyone can so most still do hard sparring instead. Every training camp currently for high/elite level pro boxers is filled with rounds and rounds and rounds of hard sparring. Just shows you don't train with any high level fighters in any combat sport. I prefer to not spar hard anymore, but that's because I've done a shit load of rounds of hard sparring already with high level fighters in mma/boxing and I have actual fights. I know how to do it without needing to do hard sparring anymore.

You just exposed yourself as a noob. Think twice before you comment me again.
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tl;dr

you already proven you're a damned moron
 
Walter Melon said:
You misunderstand, it's too long for me to care. You're a moron. Keep watching instructionals. I've trained more fighters than you've met.
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I don't watch instructional lol. I never have. I watch fights to learn what I don't already know. Name your fighters then, how far did they go not sparring hard? I've trained with fighters from high levels of multiple combat sports. You saying there is no need for hard sparring ever, shows that you shouldn't be training anyone. Go do demos McDojo master.
 
Max takes a lot of shots, so less sparring is better for the longevity. Touch sparring is still beneficial for timing and pre-fight simulation, also with a mimic sparring partner.

You also learn new things in sparring. Max's defense is criticized. Jumping rope, doing coordination drills and doing road work won't teach you new things.

So no sparring and staying in shape is good for longevity and maintaining a skill level, but not good for learning.
 
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