How many repetitions is enough?

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  1. jiujitzurero

    jiujitzurero White Belt

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    How much drilling/repetition per 'move' will it usually take an average person to have that move ingrained in him as 2nd nature?

    And from your experience, does x amount of drilling of a super basic move, lets say an armbar, significantly increased your % to sub your opponent successfully?
     
  2. Darkslide632

    Darkslide632 Brown Belt

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    Sports psychologists generally agree that 5000 repetitions is enough to make something instinctual.
     
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    georgejjr Black Belt

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  4. jiujitzurero

    jiujitzurero White Belt

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    why? :icon_conf
     
  5. MonkeyNuts!

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    i read 10,000 somehwere
     
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    Gsoares2*** Banned Banned

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    way more than your ever going to do..

    so keep drilling.
     
  7. Masakatsu Funaki #1

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    Amen
     
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    10,000 for melon heads and 1000 for non-melon heads.
     
  10. Covaliu

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    I've also heard that to become expert at an action, it takes 10,000 correct repetitions.
     
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    I think an appropriate analogy would be learning a musical instrument.

    I practice piano and would say 10,000 CORRECT repetitions spread out over a 1-2 year period seems reasonable enough to develop proper muscle memory.

    Some will take more time and some will take less.
     
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    But the notion of "enough" is rather disturbing is it not? Enough for what is what i'm getting at. To be vladimir horowitz? Or simply to PLAY liszt(have your blackbelt). I think the brownbelt had it right when he said 'way more than you'll ever do, so get practicing.'
     
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    one of my instructor friends is a black belt that does this. He works on a move or series of moves and counters 10,000 times in 45 days, then picks a new move for the next 45 days.
     
  16. jiujitzurero

    jiujitzurero White Belt

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    So since we are on the subject, I think I should work on a blueprint on which moves to drill w/ a dummy training partner.

    I am thinking of concentrating on armbar first, I know its basic but what the heck. Anyone have suggestions?
     
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    YeahBee Samdog Original Nine

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    a 5th dan I had at a camp recently said it took him years after his blackbelt to fully master his haraigoshi

    he is in his 60ths and threw me a SHW like I was nothing from all differnt angels
     
  18. Guards

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    I think there was an actual study(Science!) done a few years ago. The number(from memory) was averaged to about 3,950 or so repetitions are what it takes for muscle memory to be stable.

    So, practice each technique you want to improve 10 times every single day for a year. :)
     
  19. Cojofl

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    Well some movements are a lot more complex that others, so I imagine more complex movements would take longer.
     
  20. LocalNmass

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    +1

    what made me really realize this, was watching JJ machado on the "insider training" tv show, drilling basic armbar and triangle from guard as part of his workout. If he is still working on it.......
     

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