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How many PED busts were for actual PEDs?

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Of the notable recent ones, BJ got popped for an IV, Machida got popped for something that's 6 bucks at a grocery store, Jones for estrogen blockers. Who's been popped for actual PEDs, rather than masking agents?
 
Of the notable recent ones, BJ got popped for an IV, Machida got popped for something that's 6 bucks at a grocery store, Jones for estrogen blockers. Who's been popped for actual PEDs, rather than masking agents?
Marquardt. Sherk.
 
Chael got straight up caught with both HGH and EPO.
 
Estrogen blockers are PEDs on their own. If you weren't taking testosterone and then started taking estrogen blockers it would cause your body to produce more testosterone that it previously was.

Tibau got caught with EPO
Romero got caught with a SARM MK-677 I believe.
 
Testing is near useless, they catch people by sheer luck. How else can Brock pass the tests?
 
Estrogen blockers are PEDs on their own. If you weren't taking testosterone and then started taking estrogen blockers it would cause your body to produce more testosterone that it previously was.

Tibau got caught with EPO
Romero got caught with a SARM MK-677 I believe.

Romero got caught with Ibutamoren, it's not a SARM, it's a growth hormone secretalogue. Basically increases HGH but isn't itself HGH.
Means was busted for Ostarine, which is a SARM.
Tibau for EPO
Cro Cop for HGH
Edilov, Omielanczuk and Makhachev for Meldonium, though it's still a guess as to whether that's what Edilov took, and Omielanczuk and Makhachev may or may not end up with a sanction due to the levels in their test.
Mir for Turinabol
Olivieri for Methyltestosterone
Mendes for Growth Hormone Releasing Peptide 6

Most of the guys USADA has caught were using PEDs that are probably effective either on their own or in combination with others.

Erokhin got caught using Drostanolone, but it was a fight night test that NSAC did on him, not one USADA did (for that card USADA tested all the main card guys on fight night, NSAC tested the prelims).
 
Of the notable recent ones, BJ got popped for an IV, Machida got popped for something that's 6 bucks at a grocery store, Jones for estrogen blockers. Who's been popped for actual PEDs, rather than masking agents?
From what I know Dhea can't be seen in low doses, so if he was using the $6 amount he would've been ingesting a bottle a day
 
Of the notable recent ones, BJ got popped for an IV, Machida got popped for something that's 6 bucks at a grocery store, Jones for estrogen blockers. Who's been popped for actual PEDs, rather than masking agents?
Estrogen blockers are PEDs. But was that confirmed? I thought it was Sonnen's theory that that is what Jones was taking.
 
Half the drugs people have been caught for are almost useless GHRP? I've taken that. Beta Alanine or creatine are better for performance. Does help you eat a lot. SARMS? I've taken LGD and Ostarine. No real impact. Once again, creatine increased my strength and recovery more. DHEA… Useless. May as well banned BCAA's.

Even steroids are misunderstood. Many steroids are more than useless. Anderson tested positive for three things. One was a sleeping pill. One was an anti anxiety med. The final one was Masteron…. A steroid. Viagra story aside, and pretending just for a second that he was 100% taking Masteron… This is also a hardly a miracle drug. It's a cutting agent. Will help strip the last bits of fat to make weight…

So far, USADA aren't really catching many, if any guys with real solid performance enhancers [Of course guys are using them]. They are catching guys with banned substances…

The fans see the words tested positive, and PED's and they automatically think the things these guys are testing positive for are some crazy super drug that turns you into a beast. It's the furthest thing from the truth. Half of this stuff is either FDA approved medication, mild performance boosters no worse than creatine or beta alanine, or 'signs' of steroid use ala the estrogen blockers Jon took…

In fact, the Jon Jones case is kind of embarrassing for USADA, because it's basically saying, hey, we know your were taking steroids… We were too retarded to actually catch you, so we're going to flag you on a technicality because we're sore losers.
 
Of the notable recent ones, BJ got popped for an IV, Machida got popped for something that's 6 bucks at a grocery store, Jones for estrogen blockers. Who's been popped for actual PEDs, rather than masking agents?
You dont take estrogen blockers for no reason
 
Estrogen blockers are PEDs. But was that confirmed? I thought it was Sonnen's theory that that is what Jones was taking.
Rashad and Sonnen both reported that that's what they heard from Jones' camp. Rashad trained at Jackson/Wink for a long time, it'd be surprising if he didn't have friends there that knew what was up.
 
From what I know Dhea can't be seen in low doses, so if he was using the $6 amount he would've been ingesting a bottle a day
'The Always Popular' Forrest Griffin - Mike Goldberg

Not sure about that. I know his initial flag was because he just told them he was taking it, not sure about how much actually registered.

Estrogen blockers are PEDs. But was that confirmed? I thought it was Sonnen's theory that that is what Jones was taking.

Estrogen blockers aren't really PEDs, they're PCT drugs to avoid the negative side effects of real steroids. I don't know that just taking estrogen blockers would do much of anything, but I don't think anybody takes just estrogen blockers.
 
Not sure about that. I know his initial flag was because he just told them he was taking it, not sure about how much actually registered.



Estrogen blockers aren't really PEDs, they're PCT drugs to avoid the negative side effects of real steroids. I don't know that just taking estrogen blockers would do much of anything, but I don't think anybody takes just estrogen blockers.
Read up on it. Estrogen blockers are used in many cases for guys cycling off of steroids or testosterone. By blocking the estrogen it kicks the body into producing more testosterone .
 
Read up on it. Estrogen blockers are used in many cases for guys cycling off of steroids or testosterone. By blocking the estrogen it kicks the body into producing more testosterone .
Yeah, that's pretty mild though if the extend of PED use is estrogen blockers. It's more likely that they were used to mitigate the effects of something else. The risks of using estrogen blockers waaaay outweight the benefits if you're a pro athlete who gets tested.
 
Half the drugs people have been caught for are almost useless GHRP? I've taken that. Beta Alanine or creatine are better for performance. Does help you eat a lot. SARMS? I've taken LGD and Ostarine. No real impact. Once again, creatine increased my strength and recovery more. DHEA… Useless. May as well banned BCAA's.

Even steroids are misunderstood. Many steroids are more than useless. Anderson tested positive for three things. One was a sleeping pill. One was an anti anxiety med. The final one was Masteron…. A steroid. Viagra story aside, and pretending just for a second that he was 100% taking Masteron… This is also a hardly a miracle drug. It's a cutting agent. Will help strip the last bits of fat to make weight…

So far, USADA aren't really catching many, if any guys with real solid performance enhancers [Of course guys are using them]. They are catching guys with banned substances…

The fans see the words tested positive, and PED's and they automatically think the things these guys are testing positive for are some crazy super drug that turns you into a beast. It's the furthest thing from the truth. Half of this stuff is either FDA approved medication, mild performance boosters no worse than creatine or beta alanine, or 'signs' of steroid use ala the estrogen blockers Jon took…

In fact, the Jon Jones case is kind of embarrassing for USADA, because it's basically saying, hey, we know your were taking steroids… We were too retarded to actually catch you, so we're going to flag you on a technicality because we're sore losers.
I'm willing to bet you have taken steroids. As a fighter who is natural I am definitely in favor of what USASA is doing. Everything except weed
 
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