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What do you think of this guy?
How i became an ex-muslim activist.
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Still looks like a Muslim to me.
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We would have to wait until he walked pass an elementary school getting out to know for sure.
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smart guy, but dangerous to be publicly outspoken about it. but then again, being publicly outspoken about it probably increases chances of getting european citizenship under persecution basis
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I believe the word you're looking for is "taqqiya".
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The politically correct term is "goblin."
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Lol yeah, but I actually mean if you didn't become an atheist by the time you are 10 or whenever you can form a rational thought about religion. You are probably never become one.
That dude changed his mind when he was in his 20 or so. That's not how it works IMO.
If the cult still has you past your teenage years you are in it forever.
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Lol yeah, but I actually mean if you didn't become an atheist by the time you are 10 or whenever you can form a rational thought about religion. You are probably never become one.
That dude changed his mind when he was in his 20 or so. That's not how it works IMO.
If the cult still has you past your teenage years you are in it forever.
I think you're greatly over-estimating many people's mental development.
Not to mention that one may be an atheist, but still feel inclined to obey the wishes of one's parents or the surrounding society.
The doubt may have sunk in a long time ago, but the courage to actually acknowledge that doubt, may only have been built in adulthood.
However, it is true that shedding the "cult-like" behaviour patterns can take a long time. A lot of times, the people who leave religion are left with no choice but to join a new cult, in order to accommodate their longing for a "community experience". The hole can temporarily be filled by various identity/political movements, which in the end will inevitably turn out to be hollow.
The truth is that when you leave religion, you must be prepared for leaving such an experience, forever.
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Yeah, I am just having a hard time believing that if anyone hears the story of Jesus or Mohamed they don't call BS on it as soon as their develope rational thinking skills.
But I know what you mean. I can't really relate because my parents aren't religious. That was always a none issue for me.
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Well, it is pretty obvious that if you're not brought up religious, then you're unlikely to be religious. It takes quite a bit of time and effort to raise a person to operate based on a system of beliefs.
I've also had a non-religious upbringing and the stories in the Bible bored me to tears as a child, whenever I may have encountered them. It is difficult to get a man who lives in the forests, lakes and long winters of Finland, to associate himself with a Middle Eastern man who travels the desert with a jackass. Unless a serious amount of effort is put into the "education", of course. Through conditioning, all things can be made possible.
Anyway, over time I've come to understand the symbolic power of the Bible, and today I can greatly enjoy the Biblical stories, much more than I ever would have as a kid. I think a person has to have a truly wide perspective on things, before they can read such a work open-minded, without passing judgment.
A lot of the religious people, in truth, are separated from the "spirit" of the Bible, due to their conditioning. They'll never truly be able to read such a work, without judgment, without preconceptions that may lead them to falsely interpret its contents. Only a "non-religious" man can truly appreciate the book for what it is.
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I don't think that's necessarily true but in general I do think you have a point. It seems to me a lot of religious people have an elementary understanding of their own religion because its something they are inculcated into at a young age, past which they put little thought into it.
Maybe I'm misunderstanding what you mean though.
I have seen people who have studied ISIS or cults say that their big selling point is a sense of community and sense of camaraderie. And this is most selling point is most effective to people who were not raised in a formal religious tradition. Then once they are in the group they are super dedicated to showing how devoted they are to the group.
