How Good Was Conor McGregor?

[pankrat]

He has many holes in his game.

His wrestling is average.

His cardio is bad.

His submission game is not there.

He has as many weaknesses as Nate does.

More than Nick does.

Nick Diaz at 155 would kick Conor’s ass.

His wrestling is very on point. The fact that has only really been outwrestled by Khabib, and even there he defended better than any other LW contender is testament enough. He has actually developed a very serious clinch as showed vs Porier and Cerrone.

His main holes are clearly endurance and durability

 

[Garnet_StrongerThanYou]

His wrestling is very on point. The fact that has only really been outwrestled by Khabib, and even there he defended better than any other LW contender is testament enough. He has actually developed a very serious clinch as showed vs Porier and Cerrone.

His main holes are clearly endurance and durability

He was taken down many times by Mendes

and he was recently taken down by Poirier who doesn't take many people down.

I would say average.

 

[sabretitan]

Good. Just not top tier. Couldn't defend a title. As time went on, the floyd fight killed his mma career

 

[pankrat]

He was taken down many times by Mendes

and he was recently taken down by Poirier who doesn't take many people down.

I would say average.

And that's a simpleton and stupid take.
The fact you seem to not acknowledge any evolution in his wrestling since the Mendes fight is telling enough but even then, Conor actually stopped Mendes TDs way way better than the average. Even before, in fights with Siver or Max had already showed legit wrestling.

Getting taken down once when looking to land KO shots doesnt make his wrestling average, what a fucking retarded take is that. When you get out of bad positions, stop all the following TDs and even manage to control your opponent in the clinch, doing so with top competition, it means your wrestling is on point.

Regardless of shertard takes, Khabib's coach Javier Mendez already credited Conor for his wrestling prowess, pointing to he fact that he defended Khabib's tecniques better than any other tittle challenger.

 

[NoBiasJustMMA]

His striking and timing were top level, but he has always had holes in his game. Somewhere in the top 5 all time for FW but not 1st or 2nd. Not top 5 all time at LW and maybe not top 10 either.

 

[Iron Nick]

A very good, arguably great fighter, who was and possibly still is held back by his arrogance when it comes to working on his weaknesses - mainly cardio.

I still think that he's legitimately one of the most gifted strikers of all time when it comes to timing/accuracy; size advantage or not, to do what he's done on many occasions to the fighters he's done it to, is astonishing.

 

[Kowboy On Sherdog]

Pretty sure he is the only double champ with wins in three different weight classes...

 

[FIghtxIQ]

He's still great at a few things, imo top 5 striker with his attributes... but the game has elevated and he has not.

And it's more than just leg kicks and cardio.

More and more, it's required to be a rounded fighter.. to compete in every position.

A modern top fighter who's rounded can gameplan to beat Connor with his 1 dimensional approach.

That goes for any top fighter with a lopsided game... except for beast wrestlers, like Khabib.

And it's more than just being rounded.. so many coaches fail their fighters by not drilling the perfect gameplan for the opponent.. and it's shocking, the disregard.

ATT nailed it vs Conor, obviously.

His boxing coach isn't from ATT. His boxing coach is from a pure boxing gym. That's actually the main reason for Dustin's win over Conor was the better boxing with counters and inside boxing game.

 

[Madmick]

He's one of the most gifted strikers we've ever seen. He's right there with Spider and a guy he blasted-- Aldo.

 

[Oicho Throw]

I dunno if "Good" is the right word for McGregor.

Which isn't to say he's "Bad", either.

He's one of those fighters who's so idiosyncratic that they will be either feast or famine. The timing, the command of distance, the weird pseudo-karate striking, the edged stance and the KO power make him a weird puzzle for opponents. But if an opponent does puzzle him out he'll invariably look like dogshit because his fundamentals aren't entirely there. And, unfortunately for McGregor, 2 fairly solid blueprints for how to beat him have been written. I wouldn't be surprised if his next few opponents beat him, with "Focused Off-Coke Conor" joining the ranks of Focused Vitor and Sea Level Cain in debates for years afterwards.

So I'd say he's "Pretty good, but", and he joins the ranks of dudes like Machida, Zaromskis, Palhares and Sotiropolous - by no means bad, and capable of absolute brilliance, but by no means the whole meal either.

 

[Iron Nick]

Outclassing Eddie for the belt and being the toughest tittle challenger of GOAT LW Khabib certainly qualifies him as great. His fights with Nate are classics.

His wrestling is very on point. The fact that has only really been outwrestled by Khabib, and even there he defended better than any other LW contender is testament enough. He has actually developed a very serious clinch as showed vs Porier and Cerrone.

His main holes are clearly endurance and durability

And that's a simpleton and stupid take.
The fact you seem to not acknowledge any evolution in his wrestling since the Mendes fight is telling enough but even then, Conor actually stopped Mendes TDs way way better than the average. Even before, in fights with Siver or Max had already showed legit wrestling.

Getting taken down once when looking to land KO shots doesnt make his wrestling average, what a fucking retarded take is that. When you get out of bad positions, stop all the following TDs and even manage to control your opponent in the clinch, doing so with top competition, it means your wrestling is on point.

Regardless of shertard takes, Khabib's coach Javier Mendez already credited Conor for his wrestling prowess, pointing to he fact that he defended Khabib's tecniques better than any other tittle challenger.

All of the above.

I think Conor is a not so great human being (to put it friendly) and some of the things he's done as a fighter annoyed me too, but i think most people let their emotions get the better of them.
Did he have a size advantage at 145? No doubt, but it's still amazing what he's done throughout his career, all while fighting in divisions who burst of talent.

His timing and accuracy is ungodly and before he got his calf kicked to mush, it was there against Poirier too; Conor makes it sometimes seem like he sees things in slowmotion, which is something that can only be said about a VERY select few of strikers.

Unfortunately for him though, his cardio is bad and/or he exerts too much energy.
Someone on this forum told me that Conor does gas so fast a lot due to making "big movements" or something like that, which i found interesting to think about.
But the timing and shot selection of Conor?

 

[Gensoking]

Think he definitely deserved to be champion at 145 and 155 at the time. Aldo may have won in a longer match but we'll never know. Problem is he's too one-dimensional in his striking because of his power. He has an amazing build for boxing so he mainly head-hunts. He polished his TDD a lot but Khabib would always be way too much for him to stop the wrestling and Dustin is a much more well-rounded striker which he has proven against Conor, Holloway, Gaychi, etc. He'll be remembered as a money maker and maybe the start of everybody trying for 2 belts but not as a GOAT.

He is only 32 though, so he could always buckle down and go on a tear and change that

 

[pankrat]

Pretty sure he is the only double champ with wins in three different weight classes...

I guess Anderson and Henderson were the ones who got closer to such feat

 

[Krixes]

He should've stayed at FW. I know he won the 155lb belt but he's not that big of a guy. We rag on Conor all the time but he's never missed weight, even if he looked like he was dying.

 

[Gensoking]

He should've stayed at FW. I know he won the 155lb belt but he's not that big of a guy. We rag on Conor all the time but he's never missed weight, even if he looked like he was dying.

Dunno if he could've kept making 145 in his 30s

 

[MescalineDreams]

He has many holes in his game.

His wrestling is average.

His cardio is bad.

His submission game is not there.

He has as many weaknesses as Nate does.

More than Nick does.

Nick Diaz at 155 would kick Conor’s ass.

You’re not a bad guy but you really shouldn’t be analyzing mma. There’s a lot of shit you aren’t seeing and simply don’t understand.

 

[Foppa21]

He was good, not great. Holes in his game and depending on the opponent, he could cover up with the rest of his skillset.

Man knew how to sell though.

 

[Texan6533]

Conor was legitimately one of the best fighters in the world for a while, then everything outside of fighting stopped him from continuing to improve. Plus, the Khabib loss was so devastating that his aura was pretty much gone.

 

[King in the North]

He was really good and incredibly fun to watch. Could put anyone at 145 out. I was a fan.


Now he sucks ass