How does prime crawford stack up against prime Mayweather and Pacquiao at 147?

Recency bias.

Crawford's resume is still not at the level of Pac and Floyd.

As for who would win, Bud is weight classes above Pac, so not really a fair comparison. Floyd beats Crawford IMO.
 
Marquez who was a very good counter puncher gave Pacquiao problems. Imagine what Bud would have done to him.

This is coming from a Filipino, who grew up watching all Pacquiao fights.

Mayweather vs Crawford would have been the highest level of chess match in boxing history.
 
MayweatherisTBE said:
I didn't realize Crawford became the greatest fighter ever just by beating a shot version of Errol Spence. He's reached peak Canelo levels of delusion. Remember when Canelo was gonna beat Usyk because he knocked out a bunch of B and C level fighters? Well that's kind of what's happening with Crawford. Lets see what he does against someone like Charlo. Then we can start comparing him to the ATGs. It's just crazy how easy it is for some of y'all to disrespect the greatest fighters of all time.
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So now Spence is a bum? LOL
 
I love Bud but Floyd schools him. he beats manny tho.
 
People talked so much shit about Crawford before this fight. It's amusing to see these threads now.

Floyd definitely beats him. Manny is a tougher comparison.
 
CodeBreaker said:
So now Spence is a bum? LOL
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Didn't say he was a bum. I'm just not going to pretend circumstances haven't affected him. But even if Spence was in his prime, how much would beating him really mean? He's a B class welterweight that beat other B class welterweights. It's a good win for Crawford, but lets not get carried away. Some people are acting like Crawford dominated prime Sugar Ray. You got do a lot more than beat Spence in order to be compared to fighters that have dominated the sport for two decades.
 
Sweater of AV said:
People talked so much shit about Crawford before this fight. It's amusing to see these threads now.

Floyd definitely beats him. Manny is a tougher comparison.
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Damn you beat me to it before this fight it was Bud jokes about how he is a young fighter so be patient with him in regards to his level of opponents. Then it was yea but Porter is old and about to retire. He beats Spence he is an ATG now.
 
Floyd has a much better list of people he took out. Crawford still has a ways to go before we start that convo.
 
I said this the night of the fight in the RBR thread, and now I'm gonna leave this here:

So many folks forget so quickly.
Manny Pacquiao in 147 prime hit like a fucking truck and was NEVER in front of you. The only guy that figured out how to bait him was Marquez, and it took him 4 fights to do it. Very challenging footwork to deal with. Crawford is athletic enough to keep up but a lot of those shots he hit Errol with would be glancing at best with Manny running out of there after throwing his own 1-2 at weird angles.

Floyd? Shit he could stand right in front of Crawford and not get hit and counter the counter puncher. All you'd get is shoulders and elbows to punch in close and sneaky upper cuts you dont see to frustrate you and force you to make a mistake. And he had the patience to do that all night, until you make a mistake. Then, if he wanted to, (because he dictated where he wanted to take his fights) he could stand on the outside and pot shot Crawford while not getting hit. Those low jabs would be his domain like they were for Crawford tonight. It's just different levels. No slight on Crawford, but, leave Manny and Floyd out of the conversation
 
nastyleft said:
I said this the night of the fight in the RBR thread, and now I'm gonna leave this here:

So many folks forget so quickly.
Manny Pacquiao in 147 prime hit like a fucking truck and was NEVER in front of you. The only guy that figured out how to bait him was Marquez, and it took him 4 fights to do it. Very challenging footwork to deal with. Crawford is athletic enough to keep up but a lot of those shots he hit Errol with would be glancing at best with Manny running out of there after throwing his own 1-2 at weird angles.

Floyd? Shit he could stand right in front of Crawford and not get hit and counter the counter puncher. All you'd get is shoulders and elbows to punch in close and sneaky upper cuts you dont see to frustrate you and force you to make a mistake. And he had the patience to do that all night, until you make a mistake. Then, if he wanted to, (because he dictated where he wanted to take his fights) he could stand on the outside and pot shot Crawford while not getting hit. Those low jabs would be his domain like they were for Crawford tonight. It's just different levels. No slight on Crawford, but, leave Manny and Floyd out of the conversation
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Agreed. Floyd is a no-brainer and Manny's peak at 147 very likely beats any version of Crawford.
 
borntoloseNOT said:
Crawford isn’t this master boxer everyone thinks he is. It’s easy to look like a master boxer when your opponent is shot but he doesn’t exhibit the hit and not get hit like Floyd could, he gets hit and then hits back half the time he scores these great counters, Floyd would have barely given him an opportunity the whole night, and gotten his own work in the whole while.

Pacquiao struggled with guys like Marquez and Mayweather, Crawford couldn’t stand in the pocket confidently against Jose Benavidez, had to use his feet and box from the outside, Jose even clowned him at the weigh in or presser. That was a fucking one legged fight. Crawford doesnt have the death touch either, he’s not Wilder or Inoue, Prime Pacquiao would have had a field day with any version of Crawford with how much he gets hit and Pacs angles, output and abnormal power in awkward positions.

let Crawford fight a live dog who hasn’t been in a fatal car accident and then we’ll talk about fucking May or Pac.
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Yeah Spence was shot buddy, tx for the intel
 
Noctilux said:
A great counter puncher like Marquez had amazing success against Manny. Crawford is even a better counter puncher than JMM.
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Prime Manny was able to land his left against every person except Floyd Mayweather Jr. I'm not saying Prime Pac would beat Bud, but young Manny had such speed, movement and awkwardness that him doing ok against Bud is a possibility. It's also possible Bud cleanly outboxes him. Either is a reasonable prediction.

Bud vs Prime Floyd? I take Money by UD.
 
Seano said:
Never saw anyone get it done vs Floyd. He fought pressure guys, boxers, southpaws and orthodox. Floyd had issues with guys who were less technical, not guys like Crawford. The counter opportunities aren't there with Floyd, he didn't walk into punches. Look at how smooth and complete Floyd was when he first came to 147, no one touches that version of Floyd.
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You have always been biased for Floyd. I remember you from many years ago, definition of a fanboy who can't see the attributes of better fighters
 
Crawfords undefeated and has a win over Horn who beat Manny and can get one over Ugas. But those were controversial fights at the very end of Mannys career. Manny fought a lot of great opponents and has a few landmark wins.

You can say just look at 147 but the fact Manny is a natural 126er and was able to go even higher than 147 and get a brutal stoppage over Margarito really can't be ignored. That fight makes all his feats quite a bit more impressive than just the resume.
 
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amok attitude said:
Yeah Spence was shot buddy, tx for the intel
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I know, I wrote as much in the first 2 sentences. I’m on the forum to discuss boxing, not pretend I’m too good to contribute while still replying people for no reason like others choose to.
 
I'm a huge Floyd fan and know just how special a fighter he is. However I do think that Crawford poises a combination of threats that Floyd has never seen. Floyd for sure could show out and neutralize TC , but TC could potentially get to Floyd using his diverse skill set.

Think of the type of boxer that you think could give Floyd a lot of trouble, they likely will have a similar skill set to TC.
 
ferrisjso said:
Crawfords undefeated and has a win over Horn who beat Manny and can get one over Ugas. But those were controversial fights at the very end of Mannys career. Manny fought a lot of great opponents and has a few landmark wins.
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That Horn fight was a complete robbery. Anybody who watched that fight will tell you so.
 
Floyd would have to get on his bike for the whole fight to win it. He had great defensive skills, which is really what made him exceptional. A fight won by Floyd would be a boring fight where he tapped and ran, and I don't know that he could win even then.
 
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