How do you rank the best MMA tools/virtues of a MMA fighter?

[DanDragon Machi]

IMO wrestling (judo/sambo/any martial art based on take downs) should be ranked as number #1 because this gives the fighter the choice of where the fight will take place.
The second one is striking skills because every fight starts on your feet
The third is the single punch KO power who allowes limited fighters finish way better fighters in an isolated moment
every fight starts on your feet
Physical advantages as reach, size, height is a routinely decisive quality


My rank:

1. Wrestling
2. Striking
3. KO power
4. Physical advantages
5. BJJ
6. GNP
7. Cardio
8. Heart
9. Chin
10. Fight IQ


Wrestling
1. Chimaev
2. Khabib
3. Jones
4. GSP
5. Makhachev

Striking
1. Anderson
2. Poatan
3. Conor
4. Topuria
5. Adesanya

KO Power
1. Ngannou
2. Rumble Johnson
3. Poatan
4. Topuria
5. Conor

Physical Advantages
1. Jones
2. Ngannou
3. Lesnar
4. Aspinall
5. Overeen

BJJ
1. Demian
2. Werdum
3. Jacaré
4. Khabib
5. Shields

GNP
1. Jones
2. Miocic
3. Lesnar
4. Ngannou
5. Shogun

Cardio
1. Merab
2. Cain
3. Holloway
4. Edgard
5. Guida

Heart
1. Nog
2. Jones
3. JDS
4. Shogun
5. Wanderlei

Chin
1. Nog
2. Hunt
3. Jones
4. Holloway
5. Hendo

Fight IQ
1. Jones
2. GSP
3. Volkanovski
4. Cormier
5. Demetrious

 

[OldBoy91]

Wouldn't cardio and chin fall under physical advantages? Why are they their own category?

 

[PeterGriffin]

You're either a brilliant troll, or you hit you head falling out of bed this morning. Regardless... I'll bite.

Honestly... if you have fight IQ as the least useful trait as far as MMA goes, there's really no point to discussing this. Those lists are strange asf.

 

[TriangleMonkey]

Fight IQ dead last place

Idk man

A lot of fights are lost by a guy who shoulda “zigged” instead of “zagged” and a quick responsive fighting IQ can make up those mistakes

 

[tymikeson]

its hard to rank these as its the overall collective of each one that makes a fighter who they are. but if i had to list my top one it would be one that you didnt list:

faith in the lord saviour jesus christ

St. jones is number 1 in this category!!!!

 

[DanDragon Machi]

Wouldn't cardio and chin fall under physical advantages? Why are they their own category?

Could be, but I think chin, cardio and reach are valences too important to be put together

 

[JakePaulMMA]

If you want who has the best virtue, just say Genki Sudo and end the thread.

 

[DanDragon Machi]

You're either a brilliant troll, or you hit you head falling out of bed this morning. Regardless... I'll bite.

Honestly... if you have fight IQ as the least useful trait as far as MMA goes, there's really no point to discussing this. Those lists are strange asf.

There are at least 20 traits who a MMA fighter could have, where are you seeing IQ fight under 19 traits here? I just selected the ten most useful

Put IQ fight in a figher who don't have cardio for two rounds or chin to take three punches... Its gonna helps a lot lol

 

[Edward Henry Greb]

IMO wrestling (judo/sambo/any martial art based on take downs) should be ranked as number #1 because this gives the fighter the choice of where the fight will take place.

My rank:

1. Wrestling
2. Striking
3. KO power
4. Physical advantages
5. BJJ
6. GNP
7. Cardio
8. Heart
9. Chin
10. Fight IQ

1. GAMENESS (the intense TRUE desire to fight, at an extremely-intense pace, never slowing down or taking your foot off the gas);
2. STAMINA (the muscular and vascular endurance to sustain #1 at this level, which is greater than your peers);
3. DURABILITY (the physical and mental fortitude to take any abuse received, and never slow down on 1 and 2);
4. FINISH (the desire + learned skill to end a fight, whether that be by submission or KO, or making your opponent QUIT because of the above);
5. PHYSICAL GIFTS (physical gifts are only worth something if 1 and 2 are in place ... but a truly great fighter, in addition to the above, will have certain physical gifts that exceed most or all others);
6. A STYLE WHICH COMPLEMENTS PHYSICAL GIFTS (there is no one best style; rather, the very best fighters have blended some of the various styles to complement their unique physical gifts and aptitudes).

This is my take ...

 

[DanDragon Machi]

Fight IQ dead last place

Idk man

A lot of fights are lost by a guy who shoulda “zigged” instead of “zagged” and a quick responsive fighting IQ can make up those mistakes

A lot of fights are lost by a guy who even not had time to show his smartness because didn't have chin, heart or basic skills to survive the first round

AJ wasn't knowledg by having a great IQ fight but smashed way smarter guys like Glover and Gustafsson

 

[TriangleMonkey]

A lot of fights are lost by a guy who even not had time to show his smartness because didn't have chin, heart or basic skills to survive the first round

AJ wasn't knowledg by having a great IQ fight but smashed way smarter guys like Glover and Gustafsson

AJ is an outlier bruh

IQ also means you can follow a game-plan too

How many fighters straight toss the game-plan out the window once leather flies?

 

[PaddyO'malley]

In Slaps:

1.) Fight IQ: mandem gwaan on 1 wif no accuracy base like bro are u dumb jus measure also mandem haffi kno wen fi tek a knee or wen fi play it off affi dem get hit

2.) Defense: So far der base technique fi defense yuh got di roll di brace an' di drop step all of which can be combined an' tweak fi yuh own individual style Proper defense can help yuh catch di sub victory too one yute won di scrap an' him nuh tro a single slap broke di opps hand wif him face MAD important imho

3.) Technique/accuracy (one in di same): poor technique be leadin' to inconsistent slaps haffi dial ting in else yuh finna get DQ Slaps a game of millimeters fam

4.) Stat multipliers: affi mandem got di basics down haffi lean into yuh multipliers if yuh Hawaiian haffi max oot ur wt fi rcv di full effect if yuh got 5 kids yuh should have 7, etc. basically haffi fully commit to di lifestyle

5.) Dat dog in 'em: self explanatory ting a must fi round oot di game but base skill important cyaan jus show up seein' red LMFAOLL finna catch a foul or timing off pon defense

 

[JBJ was here]

A lot of fights are lost by a guy who even not had time to show his smartness because didn't have chin, heart or basic skills to survive the first round

AJ wasn't knowledg by having a great IQ fight but smashed way smarter guys like Glover and Gustafsson

You have a basic misconception of what fight IQ is to the professional fighter. It's not about taking the time to think things out in the cage and using that to show your smarts; it's about thinking and planning outside of the cage and training endlessly so that doing the smart thing in the cage becomes automatic. It's watching film, game planning, knowing your own physical strengths and weaknesses, and training, training and more training.

A lot of fights are won 100% on fight IQ. Masvidal sending Askren to the nether-realm is the classic example. Game-planning to counter an opening shoot is what won that fight.

 

[DanDragon Machi]

You have a basic misconception of what fight IQ is to the professional fighter. It's not about taking the time to think things out in the cage and using that to show your smarts; it's about thinking and planning outside of the cage and training endlessly so that doing the smart thing in the cage becomes automatic. It's watching film, game planning, knowing your own physical strengths and weaknesses, and training, training and more training.

A lot of fights are won 100% on fight IQ. Masvidal sending Askren to the nether-realm is the classic example. Game-planning to counter an opening shoot is what won that fight.

It's also about adapting your game to the opponent if the initial plan isn't working. It's not just about following an automatic flow but making quick decisions and accurate readings.

 

[HavokHarmon]

IMO wrestling (judo/sambo/any martial art based on take downs) should be ranked as number #1 because this gives the fighter the choice of where the fight will take place.
The second one is striking skills because every fight starts on your feet
The third is the single punch KO power who allowes limited fighters finish way better fighters in an isolated moment
every fight starts on your feet
Physical advantages as reach, size, height is a routinely decisive quality


My rank:

1. Wrestling
2. Striking
3. KO power
4. Physical advantages
5. BJJ
6. GNP
7. Cardio
8. Heart
9. Chin
10. Fight IQ


Wrestling
1. Chimaev
2. Khabib
3. Jones
4. GSP
5. Makhachev

Striking
1. Anderson
2. Poatan
3. Conor
4. Topuria
5. Adesanya

KO Power
1. Ngannou
2. Rumble Johnson
3. Poatan
4. Topuria
5. Conor

Physical Advantages
1. Jones
2. Ngannou
3. Lesnar
4. Aspinall
5. Overeen

BJJ
1. Demian
2. Werdum
3. Jacaré
4. Khabib
5. Shields

GNP
1. Jones
2. Miocic
3. Lesnar
4. Ngannou
5. Shogun

Cardio
1. Merab
2. Cain
3. Holloway
4. Edgard
5. Guida

Heart
1. Nog
2. Jones
3. JDS
4. Shogun
5. Wanderlei

Chin
1. Nog
2. Hunt
3. Jones
4. Holloway
5. Hendo

Fight IQ
1. Jones
2. GSP
3. Volkanovski
4. Cormier
5. Demetrious

Serious lol at putting Jones’ chin over Hendos.