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how do you defend Flying Knee and spinning back kick??

Once sparring I tried to come in with a flying knee. He saw it coming and hit me with a rear teep kick. He pulled it off by chambering his leg in tight and high. It didn't hurt too bad for a host of reasons, but it did stop all of my momentum and knock me to the mat. The spinning back kick: I would either teep him while his back was exposed, or depending on the foot (lead or rear) he uses I might try to hit a mid level roundhouse (switch or strong) after taking a quick plant step backwards. That is when you are in left lead (normal stance) and as the kick comes in you slide your lead foot back in line with your rear foot (like at attention) while shifting your hips/ass back a bit. It's a good way to avoid leg kicks too. It's advantage is that after shifting your hips back, your hips will come forward, and you use that mometnum along with a step into your kicks. So a spinning back kick comes in, you plant step back. Your hips shift back as the kick comes up a few inches short. As his foot is coming down and he is returning into his stance, you step forward with say, your right foot, off to the right and hit a switch kick to his shoulder, drop the foot and hit a right roundhouse to the bread basket. This is all hypothetical but whatever.
 
KingSnake said:
step and counter - flying knee.

the spining back kick- defend like a high kick if you can avoid by steping back and to the side do so. If someone throws a slow one, I try to come in fast and low with a counter punch with the hand opposite the direction the kick came from and guard with the other hand against a back fist.


Do you mean simliar to defending against a hook?
 
either teep or get out of there. sidestepping would be nice.
 
Gregster said:
Spinning back kick:

3) front-leg pushing kick aimed at the waist or backside of your opponent as he's turning into it. Fairly easy to land, and will cause his own momentum to dump him dead on his ass.
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This is my favorite way. In a TKD competition i was warned when i countered the back kick by kicking the guy in the back and knocking him down/winded him. But usually i just do a softish push kick with the teep my foot right on their backside. It
s quite easy to land if you're on the ball, because it's alot faster than a back kick. If timed correctly (ie. when they are facing directly away from you, they'll stumble back or fall on their ass.
 
Both of those are really easy to get away from by simply stepping to the side and back, or side. The problem is if you don't have time to do it cuz you didn't see it coming, yer screwed.

I had an old friend who used to pop a hard sidekick in the ribs with no shuffle step, not telegraphing, and he'd do it from close, where your hands actually stopped you seeing it. That sucked, too.
 
Gregster said:
Spinning back kick:

1) side-step so that your inside his stance when he finishes (his chest facing you) and counter immediately, preferably with your own spinning back kick or front push kick

I think this is a terrible counter in any context. Anyone with a decent back kick, regardless of sport, will adjust on the fly to an inside sidestep. Back kicks can be very powerful even if they land short, which is why you almost never cut to the inside unless you've already read out your opponent's timing and have something specific in mind.

2) side-step outside his stance, then pivot towards him...this will put your lead legf to the rear, and you're set up to counter with a roundhouse.

If you time and step correctly, you don't even have to pivot. In a muay Thai context, if you cut 45 degrees to his outside, you're ready to take out his supporting leg with your front leg. This is probably the most common "standard" kickboxing counter. Assuming orthodox stances on both sides. Southpaw or if you're fighting a southpaw is a little different (you hardly ever see fighters throw back kicks with their "weak" leg).

The Koreans I trained with had a nice defense that involved, basically, leaning back until narly parallel and front snap-kicking under the kicking leg. Risky, and requires impeccable timing, but works great if you can do it-- I never could.

That's basically a variation of the badachagi underkick. In a Taekwondo context, it's most useful when you're caught on the wrong end of a chasedown situation. Not really a power kick but useful for scoring points if you have the timing.

As for the jumping knee, pivot or step back and pivot away from the knee side. Since his momentum is going to carry him into you, get the outside hook/clinch and you should be in good position to throw the first knees as he gets his bearings.

Basic stuff, but you should be sticking with the basics 99% of the time anyway. Fancy stuff is neat and all, but avoiding power techniques like the back kick and the jumping knee are all about good basic footwork and being a decent lateral fighter.
 
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