How do you afford life?

Grassshoppa

Grassshoppa

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I don't get it. I remember in the 90's...

  • A brand new Ninja style 750 or so street bike cost about $7,500.
  • A brand new Chevy Z71 truck cost about $25,000.
  • A brand new really nice house with a good yard... depends on the state but maybe $350,000?
But now a new street bike can cost you $13,000. A new truck can cost near $60,000 or more. That's like the price of a condo from the 90's. But yet, I don't see wages and raises keeping up with the cost of things. A new truck costs $60,000 but I think a person is really lucky to be making $100,000/year.

How the heck do people afford all this crap these days? What about in another 20 years when a new Ford Raptor costs $100,000 but people's wages are the same.

/rant
 
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I whore myself out for cheeseburgers
 
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I whore myself out for cheeseburgers
 
i make a decent salary and have no debt. oh, and i'm single. on the other hand, during this time of year i do envy those who have their own children.
 
A 650 Ninja is still about 7500-8000k.
350K for a house? Yeah, you can get that as well. Just depends where you want to live.
 
Save and invest wisely in something other than crazy fad computer coins.
 
Grassshoppa said:
I don't get it. I remember in the 90's...

  • A brand new Ninja style 750 or so street bike cost about $7,500.
  • A brand new Chevy Z71 truck cost about $25,000.
  • A brand new really nice house with a good yard... depends on the state but maybe $350,000?
But now a new street bike can cost you $13,000. A new truck can cost near $60,000 or more. That's like the price of a condo from the 90's. But yet, I don't see wages and raises keeping up with the cost of things. A new truck costs $60,000 but I think a person is really lucky to be making $100,000/year.

How the heck do people afford all this crap these days? What about in another 20 years when a new Ford Raptor costs $100,000 but people's wages are the same.

/rant
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Grassshoppa said:
I don't get it. I remember in the 90's...How the heck do people afford all this crap these days? What about in another 20 years when a new Ford Raptor costs $100,000 but people's wages are the same.
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Inflation, standard of living, and minimum wage. Salaries also go up with inflation. How much do you think things cost in the 1960s and how much people were making? Hollywood actors and professional athletes were making nowhere near what they make today. Except teachers. Something that really counts and they are still making a shitty salary. Two ways around it. Win the lottery or sue someone. Maybe sexual harassment, even if you are a guy. It is paying big right now. The guy that broke his hip at Walmart when reaching for a watermelon came away with $7,000,000 (million). Go break something at Walmart.
 
I mainly live in bone crushing poverty. It works for me.
 
Clippy said:
I whore myself out for cheeseburgers
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I earn lots of money, despite not working very hard for it.
I live in a nice house in one of the most expensive places on earth.
My family is happy and healthy.
My mortgage costs me half of what I save into my pension each month.

The main thing, however, is that I don't crave ownership of fancy cars, motorbikes or other status symbols. I'm sure they're fun and all, but they're of no interest to me personally. I get more of a kick out of learning something new or setting a new PB than I do from buying something I don't particularly want or need.
 
Back in the 90's casual work would get you £7/hr now I get £18/hr.

Aside from a recent slide that doesn't reflect home purchasing power a pound has been worth 1.5-1.8 dollars.
 
The biggest real change is house prices over in the UK. Many people have to rent.
 
MaureenCretis said:
I earn lots of money, despite not working very hard for it.
I live in a nice house in one of the most expensive places on earth.
My family is happy and healthy.
My mortgage costs me half of what I save into my pension each month.

The main thing, however, is that I don't crave ownership of fancy cars, motorbikes or other status symbols. I'm sure they're fun and all, but they're of no interest to me personally. I get more of a kick out of learning something new or setting a new PB than I do from buying something I don't particularly want or need.
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buy me some stuff, and I'll teach you about the joy of giving.
 
In the UK, the minimum wage has gone up in the last eight years from £5.80 to £7.50, but rented rooms have gone from £250 to £450.

From when I was a child, chocolate has gone up from 35p to 70p.
 
earn dollars and spend in baht.
 
Become a drug lord.

And having one on speed dial doesn't hurt, either.
 
Wrath of Foamy said:
In the UK, the minimum wage has gone up in the last eight years from £5.80 to £7.50, but rented rooms have gone from £250 to £450.

From when I was a child, chocolate has gone up from 35p to 70p.
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I'm older than you, I remember a Twix being 17p and a can of coke 25p!
 
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