How do flat earthers explain the long/short sunlight hours near the poles?

[minute bull]

To be fair the bible does put forth that model but only because that's just how they saw things back then. Problem is a literalist is forced to defend every statement as if the intention was to actually describe physics. Fundamentalist Christianity is a BIG problem in this way.

I watched another FE doc once and it said that beyond the ice walls were many more continents and oceans being kept secret from us by the JEWS!!!

Oh those pesky Jews.

Don't get me started on my Atheist friends who keep droning on about the problems of hypocrisy; like, SHUT UPPPP -- you're making yourself the sole one-legged contestant in an ass-kicking competition!

 

[minute bull]

Beyond the ice? There is more ground. Beyond that? More water. And yet beyond that still? Chicken skins. Beyond chicken skins? Kosher meats.... YOU SEE WHERE WE'RE GOING, PEOPLE.

-- Fenny Earthian​

 

[Mike]

They're idiots with grade school level educations at best. So.... yeah.

 

[Mike]

Where’s @Scyther when you need him?

<puh-lease75>

 

[Mike]

I'm pretty sure I watched the same thing.

I remember them setting up the experiment, with a high powered lazer on one end and a hole for it shine it through in the middle, and finally a target the lazer should hit. Basically they set the hole up so the lazer should shine through it if the earth is flat. If the earth is curved, they'd have to adjust the hole.

They start the experiment. They can't see the lazer. They ask the guy holding the hole to adjust it to the "curved earth" position. They can suddenly see the lazer. They proved the earth was round. They were all thoroughly perplexed. Unfortunately the film stops right there, so you can't see them truly wrestle with the results. I can only assume they didn't change their tune. If they had, I'm fairly confident the film would've shown it.

Again, they did the opposite of science. They set up their experiment to hopefully get a specific result. Instead of doing the experiment to test their hypothesis and accepting the results regardless, they rejected the results as a fault in their experiment.

This is EXACTLY why everyone gets so frustrated. There is no desire to learn.

Just a desire to be right.

These are deeply mentally ill people, that attach their ego and sense of self to the idea that there are massive conspiracies everywhere that only they can see.

Lost, empty, and directionless. The same type of people that join cults or become incels.

 

[Voodoo_Child906]

I know what you mean but on the other hand, I have heard many arguments trying to shut my brother up by simply stating that scientists do this for a living, of course they're more believable. It does often amount to that, and I'm not even talking solely about flat earth arguments. Many things that are questioned by us normal folk, gets shut down by someone quoting a 'scientific' person, who in actual fact argues by simply imagining a theory of how it might or could be. Scientists seem to be allowed to do that, tell someone they are wrong, by coming up with something that is a maybe or a could be.
Much like big bang theory. Because people claim its impossible to include an intelligent designer in any kind of scientific measurement or theory, they then only include ideas not including a designer. The thing is, there being a god is a very very real possibility that only ignorant people refuse to accept. Yet suppose for a second there actually is a god, much of the existing 'science' goes out the window. Yet its currently pushed like its accepted as fact.

Well ya, scientists do get more leeway because they have produced actual results. They still could be wrong but the fact that GPS, Satellites, Navigation etc works soundly every day and Physics has produced monumentally more advancements to humanity than flat earth theory makes be confident that it's more likely the world is round like they say.

 

[all caps]

I have no idea what you are talking about. Why do you always run away when asked to make more than an easy pot shot?

I post on my terms

 

[Nnedd]

Again, they did the opposite of science. They set up their experiment to hopefully get a specific result. Instead of doing the experiment to test their hypothesis and accepting the results regardless, they rejected the results as a fault in their experiment.

This is EXACTLY why everyone gets so frustrated. There is no desire to learn.

Just a desire to be right.

That's really the most frustrating thing about it. Learning about the universe is amazing and awe inspiring. Every flat earth person I've seen (admittedly, they have all been on the internet) have no intention of actually learning about the world they live in, rather they insist upon being contentious at every turn.

It's a shame, but they are not genuinely curious. Just argumentative.

 

[Voodoo_Child906]

Just because you believe in the religion of science doesn't mean that every axiom (verse) and theory (analogy) you come up with is right by default.

It's a real turn off coming into contact with someone who has a god complex.

Of course everything science comes up with isn't right, in fact a lot of what science has done in the past has been inaccurate but that's precisely what makes Science so powerful. The theories that have passed the rigors of validation, critical experimentation and peer review are sound and have produced verifiable results. In fact I find it humorous and ironic that I'm on my phone using technology questioned by flat earthers... how in the hell would you be able to read this if the science wasn't sound?

 

[all caps]

That's really the most frustrating thing about it. Learning about the universe is amazing and awe inspiring. Every flat earth person I've seen (admittedly, they have all been on the internet) have no intention of actually learning about the world they live in, rather they insist upon being contentious at every turn.

It's a shame, but they are not genuinely curious. Just argumentative.

You guys know every single "flat earth person" went through the same exact public education system you did, right? Watched all the same nat geo documentaries you guys did, right?

Or are you thinking flat earthers were all homeschoolers that didnt get vaccinated or something?

 

[minute bull]

That's really the most frustrating thing about it. Learning about the universe is amazing and awe inspiring. Every flat earth person I've seen (admittedly, they have all been on the internet) have no intention of actually learning about the world they live in, rather they insist upon being contentious at every turn.

It's a shame, but they are not genuinely curious. Just argumentative.

I'm not sure argumentativeness is always one-sided. A lot of questions are designed to back FE'ers into logic problems, to humiliate them. In some cases it is not enough that we think they're wrong, some of us need for them to know they're wrong, which I feel slots us into the same boat of undermining one another.

 

[fungi]

Earth is not flat.
Earth is not round.
You're all gay.
That's what I've found.

Earth is a square.
Let all beware.
Earth is a cube.
Shut up, stupid newb.

 

[Voodoo_Child906]

A Delta flight from Los Angeles to Tokyo with 220 passengers made an emergency landing at the Cold Bay community in Alaska in March 2001.


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There's a flight from Santiago to Sydney 4 times a week on Quantas, how is that possible with the flat earth model?

 

[Herwald]

its incredible how this tard theory came out of nowhere. no one was talking about this seriously 10 years ago.

I just want to know what percent of flat earthers are trolling, versus the percent that are mentally deficient and can be tricked into believing anything

It's a trolljob by foreign intelligence agencies, looking to recruit patsies/useful idiots. It's such a flawless execution, it's kind of inspiring if you're somebody looking to start a cult or sell some shit to the masses. Most fascinating stuff is how it spreads with reasonable people entering their frame and arguing with these people.

I hope I live long enough to eventually read the expo book about this with all the little details. Cause these people are brilliant. Kind of evil, though.

 

[franklinstower]

I post on my terms

Simplistic terms after taking pot shots is kind of lame man.

 

[Nnedd]

I'm not sure argumentativeness is always one-sided. A lot of questions are designed to back FE'ers into logic problems, to humiliate them. In some cases it is not enough that we think they're wrong, some of us need for them to know they're wrong, which I feel slots us into the same boat of undermining one another.

This is valid. I think part of it is because of the internet as the main forum for discussion with flat earthers, when it becomes very difficult at times to differentiate trolls from the rest of the world. It's kind of like Poe's law, where it becomes impossible to tell a person who legit thinks the earth is flat from a person who is just seeking attention via internet squabbling.

For sure, it's contentious on both sides. But you know, when a position is just so absurd and someone is so contentious on the wrong side of it, it's easy to fall into name calling lol.

 

[all caps]

Simplistic terms after taking pot shots is kind of lame man.

I'm not sure what pot shots you're referring to. I'm not going to argue with you from a flat earthers position.. I'm not qualified. I know the ball earth better. But I will argue with anyone that just wants to shut any discussion about it down, as that's the main strategy and is lazy.

 

[franklinstower]

I'm not sure what pot shots you're referring to. I'm not going to argue with you from a flat earthers position.. I'm not qualified. I know the ball earth better. But I will argue with anyone that just wants to shut any discussion about it down, as that's the main strategy and is lazy.

But that is not at all what I was doing. Not by any stretch. I was desribing my experiencen on this site with FE people and sharing what Ive gleaned from watching a lot of videos and such on this topic. This is a topic that interests me a lot due to religouse and scientific reasons.

 

[minute bull]

... when a position is just so absurd and someone is so contentious on the wrong side of it, it's easy to fall into name calling lol.

That's designed to make critics look like intellectual bullies, in the same way That One Church used to protest events carrying obscene signs designed to get people to assault them -- in which case they'd turn around and sue.

 

[cheachea]

What's really interesting is that you will find FE enthusiasts from many different groups of people : hardcore Christians, occultists, atheist engineers, conspiracy theorists , eastern mystics etc.