How do blacks feel about ILLEGAL immigration?

[The ScorpioN]

most natives in both north and south america died from a smallpox plague. if 50% of the US population died, including the military, to a plague, we'd be pretty easy to mop up as well.

Very true. I'm sure it was a big factor.

Do you think the fact that Europeans had guns and horses had something to do with military superiority?

 

[JonnyRingo84]

Very true. I'm sure it was a big factor.

Do you think the fact that Europeans had guns and horses had something to do with military superiority?

500 of pizarros men are not conquering the inca empire with horses and their blunderbuss guns. would not happen. impossible. so there were clearly other things at play.

cortez was literally ran out of the aztec empire. he fled for his life, along with his men. when they returned 3 years later, most everyone was dead.

the comanche owned the midwest up until the 1860s. i realize that the french claimed to own it, and then the USA "bought" that land with the louisiana purchase, but they only owned it on paper. it wasnt until the colt revolver was invented, that the US army could truly compete with the comanche, and truly "own" that land.

 

[The ScorpioN]

500 of pizarros men are not conquering the inca empire with horses and their blunderbuss guns. would not happen. impossible. so there were clearly other things at play.

500 maybe not. But if push came to shove, you think European military wouldn’t exterminate the technologically deficient natives?

 

[JonnyRingo84]

500 maybe not. But if push came to shove, you think European military wouldn’t exterminate the technologically deficient natives?

well it depends on which natives we're talking about. the aztec and inca, or the nez perce etc etc etc

if the aztec had recognized the whites as a threat from the beginning, and small pox was not a factor, then there would be no spanish speaking central america today. theyd have no ability to project power or establish a base of power in central america. their guns were shit, and bows and arrows were better. the spanish didnt even use them that often. the horse was a legit factor, but how would they get enough over here to defeat an empire of millions? the same would be true for the inca, and there, the horse would be less of a factor. calvary charges in the andes? meh.

look up USA settlements in the upper midwest prior to 1850. they dont exist. why? because the comanche owned that land. any time whites came in, including the US military, they got killed. the revolver pistol in the late 19th century was the only thing that changed this. because of that, the US military could stay on their horse and fire multiple shots, rather than stay on the ground with rifles and get raped.

 

[The ScorpioN]

well it depends on which natives we're talking about. the aztec and inca, or the nez perce etc etc etc

if the aztec had recognized the whites as a threat from the beginning, and small pox was not a factor, then there would be no spanish speaking central america today. theyd have no ability to project power or establish a base of power in central america. their guns were shit, and bows and arrows were better. the spanish didnt even use them that often. the horse was a legit factor, but how would they get enough over here to defeat an empire of millions? the same would be true for the inca, and there, the horse would be less of a factor. calvary charges in the andes? meh.

look up USA settlements in the upper midwest prior to 1850. they dont exist. why? because the comanche owned that land. any time whites came in, including the US military, they got killed. the revolver pistol in the late 19th century was the only thing that changed this. because of that, the US military could stay on their horse and fire multiple shots, rather than stay on the ground with rifles and get raped.

So your view is that germs is the number 1 factor, not gunpowder that allowed European domination of the Americas?

 

[Renard]

500 of pizarros men are not conquering the inca empire with horses and their blunderbuss guns. would not happen. impossible. so there were clearly other things at play.

The natives weren't united under a common banner, for one. While other parts of the world had empires, the natives were divided in a multiplicity of tiny warring tribes, each only looking after their own interests. They were politically backward, as well as technologically backward, they had been isolated from the world and had no immunity against the diseases they caught from the Europeans. They lost pathetically in spite of having an enormous home advantage.

 

[sub_thug]

You clearly don't understand what I am trying to say.

Lands of Northern America were grabbed by force. Unfortunately for the native Americans it was unstoppable force. They couldn't defend themselves. Then more advanced European nations used to opportunity and I build a country.

So your argument is that white people took the US by force, so therefore, it is equivalent if Mexicans take over the US by force.

Please tell me why the US would allow the hostile takeover by a non-native power. Because you're really making the case for strong border protection and definition here. If the immigrants are indeed hostile, as you seem to be claiming that they are, would it not stand to reason that the government should use every means possible, up to and including deadly force, to preserve its borders as a means of repelling these invaders?

 

[Trotsky]

We like them more. "Illegal" kinda makes them cool.

They have also take over the jails and streets.

You do realize that undocumented immigrants on average are incredibly LESS likely to be in jail than "legal" citizens, right?

Like, it's no close. Because they want to avoid detection and just make a living, undocumented immigrants are considerably less likely to commit crimes and are overwhelmingly represented in federal detention centers, not jails, for crimes of illegal entry.

Why don't you even try to have a smidgen of actual knowledge on the issues.

 

[Trotsky]

Honestly it's making it harder to find a job in the drug trade.


No effect on the sports trade tho, so there's that.

In my experience, there has always been a racial harmony in the drug trade: Latinos dominate the importation and black dominate the local distribution.

There is very little Latino-vs-black animosity as far as territorial encroachment. It's quite beautiful.

 

[KBE6EKCTAH_CCP]

I want to remind you guys that your ancestors were also illegals. Unless you got native american blood in you that is.

Back in 1492, the lands of America were stormed by illegals and claimed by illegals. How is that different today?

The only difference back then was that native Americans didn't have missile launchers, walls, and submarines preventing entry.

Super logic.

Euros beat the Natives, and made the USA.

Chinese could beat the USA and make something else out of it, then ?

It would be fine in your book and all the same ?

Hey Americans, go surrender to the Chinese, since it's all the same.

 

[Lord Commander Palis]

I want to remind you guys that your ancestors were also illegals. Unless you got native american blood in you that is.

Back in 1492, the lands of America were stormed by illegals and claimed by illegals. How is that different today?

The only difference back then was that native Americans didn't have missile launchers, walls, and submarines preventing entry.

Sucks for them.

The natives were also not united nor did they control the land.

 

[syct23]

So your view is that germs is the number 1 factor, not gunpowder that allowed European domination of the Americas?

Indeed..

Basically 2/3 of the native people were already dead by the time they started inland.

Just think how many fighting bodies that was which were already gone...

 

[Lord Commander Palis]

Same way mexican and cuban americans feel.

When a haitian decides to cut a fool, msm blames black folks, not haitians.

When a fucking african decides to rape a white girl in north dakota, all they see is his black skin...

So yea... You gotdamn right i feel some type of way when these mother fuckers get grouped in with the rest of us.

We already got it bad with dealing with the hood mentality and the nihilism.... Now i gotta answer for their bullshit too. Fuck!

Dont get me started on how easy they can get a fucking business loan...

So it's the white mans fault. K

 

[panamaican]

Very true. I'm sure it was a big factor.

Do you think the fact that Europeans had guns and horses had something to do with military superiority?

Tough to say. I vaguely recall reading that those early incursions were far more balanced military wise prior to the population decimation. But that's a very vague recollection so I could be completely wrong.

 

[Bloodworth]

We like them more. "Illegal" kinda makes them cool.



You do realize that undocumented immigrants on average are incredibly LESS likely to be in jail than "legal" citizens, right?

Like, it's no close. Because they want to avoid detection and just make a living, undocumented immigrants are considerably less likely to commit crimes and are overwhelmingly represented in federal detention centers, not jails, for crimes of illegal entry.

Why don't you even try to have a smidgen of actual knowledge on the issues.

Holy crap, Making then illegal is kinda cool. Damn....

What percentage of illegals are currently in prison.

And sanctuary cities don't prosecute.

Illegal deported 5 times in ca, comes back and kills young women

He was deported for committing crime.
His accomplice a citizen was locked up, this guy commits same crime, but is deported and back on American streets before his citizen accomplice. Not good.

The good kids are bankrupting schools by me. There are so many and before they could do studies on school size or over population they just recklessly let everyone in.

Now schools have trailer park classrooms on fields and in parking lots.

Now 6 out of 30 kids in a classroom have parents who contribute to school tax.
It's bankrupting schools, tax payers
Can no longer fill the gap

This is common sense.

 

[KBE6EKCTAH_CCP]

Natives did govern themselves. They had laws, boundaries, rules, etc, etc. Immigrant invaders destroyed everything with their cultural genocide and then made false facts of their way of life.

Anyone that is current with Native history knows how advanced Native's in North America were.

You can't just go into someones home, murder the men, women, boys, dogs, and rape the girls and destroy their home and then point your fingers and call them "savages". lol

Good posts by you though.

It's not as simple as that.

I can say with reasonable assurance that for example the French were better as a whole to Natives than fellow natives Iroquois or Comanche.

Only fucking idiots see it as a White vs Natives because it's way more complicated than that.

 

[Krayd]

then don't refer to Muslims as immigrants. Just refer to them as conquesters

Be that as it may, the fact that the United States is clearly not native American today supports my argument that Natives got out-competed and pretty much wiped out. You can conquer through war, through deception, through whatever means you want. Again, not sure why you keep saying "you", I'm not a descendant of American colonists.

There's some confusion here for sure. I'm not saying "you people" and lumping you in. I'm saying you don't have it correct. It isn't all just black and white cut and dry. It's not a definitive conquering. It's a long history of oppression and current problems for native people and it is ongoing. There is court cases and reclaiming of rightful sovereign land to this day.

What I am saying by "you" is. It's not conquering if someone kills someone or steals something this day. To call muslim immigrants anything other than "conqueror's" is incorrect (by your reasoning) unless you're a hypocrite.

 

[nostradumbass]

I don't see anything wrong with that. It's not as if they'll be making Engineer money all of a sudden. They're baking bread, for crying out loud!

There's not anything wrong with that, it's a good thing. They now have to pay what's demanded to fill the positions and citizens get the jobs. It's another example of how wages had been lowered and citizens passed over for cheaper labor.

 

[HunterSdVa29]

odd that the Mormons were able to get to and settle Utah what w/ the Comanches controlling the entire Midwest up until the 1860s.....

 

[The ScorpioN]

then don't refer to Muslims as immigrants. Just refer to them as conquesters

There's some confusion here for sure. I'm not saying "you people" and lumping you in. I'm saying you don't have it correct. It isn't all just black and white cut and dry. It's not a definitive conquering. It's a long history of oppression and current problems for native people and it is ongoing. There is court cases and reclaiming of rightful sovereign land to this day.

What I am saying by "you" is. It's not conquering if someone kills someone or steals something this day. To call muslim immigrants anything other than "conqueror's" is incorrect (by your reasoning) unless you're a hypocrite.

Oh no, I'm firmly against Muslim immigration specifically for that reason.

I wouldn't want British values and culture, that played an enormous part in establishing the freest and most prosperous functioning society in history, to start eroding in favor of theocracy.