How did you score Kovalev - Ward 1 and Kovalev - Ward 2?

[Gregoire1]

Two questions for boxing fans:
1) How did you score Kovalev - Ward 1 and was it robbery?
2) How did you score Kovalev - Ward 2 before finish and was it legitimate finish or was it low blow?

 

[Sunfish]

This looks like a classic troll thread but I can answer. Ask the people who are experts in here and they say Ward won. I’m not including myself in that before proncely starts swinging his Johnson around.

Yes that fight was a legit finish.

 

[Gregoire1]

This looks like a classic troll thread but I can answer. Ask the people who are experts in here and they say Ward won. I’m not including myself in that before proncely starts swinging his Johnson around.

Yes that fight was a legit finish.

Its not trolling at all. I'm from Russia and our commentator's and expert's consensus opinion is that first fight was clearly robbery and second fight should be DQ for Ward because of low blow. Yes, part of it is propaganda, but....

 

[HardasNAILZ]

Obvious troll is obvious

 

[Bingo]

All these months later + a retirement and ward still doesn't get the respect he deserves

 

[Confucamus]

First fight could have gone either way. I remember the night of the fight thinking Kovalev may have taken it by a point, but I hand't been scoring the fight closely or anything. I don't hate that Ward got the decision. Second fight Kovalev got his ass kicked. Say what you want about wether or not the punch was low, but it's clear that Kovalev was all done by that point anyway. Ward was merciless with the body shots and Kovalev had nothing left.

 

[HardasNAILZ]

First fight could have gone either way. I remember the night of the fight thinking Kovalev may have taken it by a point, but I hand't been scoring the fight closely or anything. I don't hate that Ward got the decision. Second fight Kovalev got his ass kicked. Say what you want about wether or not the punch was low, but it's clear that Kovalev was all done by that point anyway. Ward was merciless with the body shots and Kovalev had nothing left.

Correct, Ward took his soul.

 

[Minowafanatic]

I had Ward winning the first one, but I was surprised the judges saw it that way too actually as I'd had him edging a lot of rounds whereas I felt that the rounds Kovalev won were much easier to score. So it was a close fight that could have gone either way, definitely not a robbery at all.

The second fight, Ward beat up Kovalev. Kovalev was on his way out despite any low blows. So those punches being potentially low is not the biggest deal in my book.

 

[YoungCashMoney]

I had Kovalev winning the first fight by a point from the knockdown, I can see the 7 rounds they found for Ward but thats with really really reaching on each swing round.. In boxing you need to TAKE the belt from the champion, with Kovalev being the lineal, there is no way it is ok that Ward got that win.

The second fight was a bullshit finish to me, he legitimately hurt and wobbled Kovalev, but getting hit in the balls causes serous damage that you don't recover from in minutes let alone seconds, and he was landing low. I can't believe Kovalev didn't actually go down to be honest, Andre Ward through everything he possibly could into 3 lowblows in a row. The referee not giving Kovalev a break after the first lowblow was suspect also. Punches barely on the belt line are ok, but if they are on the opposite end of the belt line, that is a low blow and that is what Ward was landing from what I saw. It did look like Ward was bout to cruise to a stoppage or UD eventually anyway though, just that specific stoppage was beyond lame to me.

No matter what, Andre Ward lost in my eyes in the first fight. Kovalev style doesn't do well in rematches compared to Ward's, when Ward didn't know Kovalev he lost the fight.

 

[nac386]

I had ward winning the first fight by one round. I had ward winning the second fight by stoppage, if I recall correctly.

 

[treelo]

First fight was close, not really sure who i had winning, it wasnt a great fight

Second fight Ward should have been warned no doubt about the low blow(s). But that wouldnt have changed the outcome of the fight in the slightest. Kovalev basically knew he couldnt win and had given up pretty early on.

 

[RiseAboveHat]

Had kovalev winning the first fight by a round because of the KD

Second fight may have been a bit early, but it was a fair stoppage

 

[ironfist05]

I edged the first to Kovalev

Ward took his soul the second time

 

[nac386]

I edged the first to Kovalev

Ward took his soul the second time

I thought Kovalev won when I was just hanging out, socializing, and watching it live. Then the next day when I scored the fight, I had Ward winning by a round. It easily could have gone to Kovalev though, it's just one of those fights that depends on your scoring taste and maybe even your mood.

 

[Seano]

Had Ward/Kovalev 1 something like 114/113 Ward. Maybe 115/112.

Ward/Kovalev 2- yeah, the blows were low but they were sort of the caused by the way Kovalev was posturing. The ref was in his rights to stop it when Kovalev stopped defending himslef.

 

[BluntTrauma21]

Scored the first fight 114-113 Ward As others have mentioned I didn't think he would get the nod b/c of the kd, but he did. Could've gone either way, tho, was not anything close to a robbery. Super close fight.

Don't remember what I had for the rematch when it was stopped. It was an unfortunate ending b/c there were some shots that strayed low but at the same time I think it's pretty clear that Kov was finished. Yeah I would've liked to see some of those shots land higher, yeah Kov felt those, but he was getting lit up to the point where I have a very, very hard time seeing him last much longer, low blows or not. He was hurt badly and didn't do much to defend himself, he was cooked imo, even before said low blows were even an issue.

 

[Shoemaker]

There were a couple of fouls in the second fight but not enough to warrant more than a warning and maybe a point deduction, but I think that's reaching too. Ward definitely wasn't dancing in DQ territory.

 

[City_Lights]

I remember the first fight being really close and thinking it could go either way. Close fights are always going to happen and some people are always going to be pissed when it's not their guy.

 

[hiphopnazi]

Had Ward by one round in the first fight. I can definitely see Kov winning by one round as well.

Second was Ward via stealing Kov's soul.

 

[borntoloseNOT]

I don't see how anyone saw first fight for Kov, one KD and 2 good rounds doesn't erase the systematic dismantling Ward put on him.

2nd fight, Kov got spanked amd stopped.