How come Khabib is favored to beat Conor in a rematch but not Stipe beating Ngannou in a rematch?

[Dirge]

Really doesn't make sense to compare LW to HW...

The HW guys, for the most part can take each other out quite easily with a clean shot.

Conor hasn't really shown one shot KO power other than Aldo (which was at 145 and Aldo is now fighting at 135).

I'm favoring Stipe to win again simply because he is the better fighter and Ngannou hasn't shown any improvements (those windmilling punches he threw against Rozenstruick looks like something you'd see in UFC 2 or 3).

Ngannou could still put Stipe to sleep but other than a great chin and massive power he's a far inferior fighter to Stipe.

 

[DarkRaven]

They are heavyweights to be fair so can't really compare visible damage. Conor's face looked fine too, despite taking a few sucker punches from khabibs goons.

Conor won a round, did Francis? I honestly don't remember but I believe Stipe won every round.

The smart value money would be to bet on both Stipe and Conor in the rematches.

10-8 every if i remember corectly

 

[Dirge]

Has lost three times equals “lost a bunch of fights”. Only on Sherdog...

And one of those losses was a close decision against prime JDS. The other two were precipitated by eye poke fouls that the ref didn't catch.

Irony.

 

[kenetics]

Stipe grapple-raped Ngannou for 5 rounds and had him gassed after round 1. Yet Ngannou is still picked as the betting favorite to win the rematch

Conor literally put up a much better fight against his opponent and betting odds have Conor at +215 in a hypothetical rematch.

Conor won a round. Ngannou didn't. lul wut

Stipe look like a zombie during the first Francis fight and his recent fight with DC looked bad too. I'm not a fan of Francis because his terrible grappling and striking defence but I think he will ko stipe this time around.

 

[Luthien]

All Sherdog sees

 

[Genisys]

Why didn’t his two losses impact him in the first Ngannou fight where Francis looked pathetic?

That has nothing to do with your 100% inaccurate statement. Nothing.

 

[jm5000]

Because they are different matchups maybe?

 

[NoBiasJustMMA]

I'd say Ngannou has not improved a single iota. (He's just thought 4 so-so fighters NOT named "Stipe.")

Stipe is the one who's improved, he went from being flatlined by DC to putting on a clinic body attack in their second fight, and beating him in a different way in their third fight. DC is no easy fight for anyone, and Stipe proved he was the better man, in two different ways, via two different strategies.

I agree Ngannou always has a one-shot chance, but to say that "he's improved" by ridiculously fast KOs over immobile slugs is laughable.

Then you have no clue what you're talking about.

 

[JKS]

Ok...ok....here we go.....

1. Khabib is a better grappler than Stipe
2. Francis is a bigger KO power puncher
3. Khabib is more effectively defensively than Stipe and takes less risks standing
4. Its HW

 

[Call-of-Cthulhu]

Then you have no clue what you're talking about.

I've been a fight fan since before you been alive.
Articles published in Ring Magazine, Boxing Illustrated, Black belt.

You're the one who has no idea you're talking about.

Ngannou is a powerhouse supreme, no doubt. Technically laughable, however.

 

[NoBiasJustMMA]

I've been a fight fan since before you been alive.
Articles published in Ring Magazine, Boxing Illustrated, Black belt.

You're the one who has no idea you're talking about.

Ngannou is a powerhouse supreme, no doubt. Technically laughable, however.

I doubt it, you think Ngannou hasn't improved whatsoever in the last 3 years. That's a pretty ridiculous statement when he only had 5 years of training at the point he had fought Stipe.

 

[FloydMayweatherMMA]

Stipe grapple-raped Ngannou for 5 rounds and had him gassed after round 1. Yet Ngannou is still picked as the betting favorite to win the rematch

Conor literally put up a much better fight against his opponent and betting odds have Conor at +215 in a hypothetical rematch.

Conor won a round. Ngannou didn't. lul wut

Conor TKO's people, when Francis knocks them out they don't fuckin move.

 

[El Fernas]

Did you not watch both fights? Stipe while dominated the fight and all that, he was mostly surviving the fight, avoiding the standup like the plague, cause he didnt put that much damage on Ngannou on the ground either, Khabib didnt lost a round against Conor, stopped him.

 

[Call-of-Cthulhu]

I doubt it, you think Ngannou hasn't improved whatsoever in the last 3 years. That's a pretty ridiculous statement when he only had 5 years of training at the point he had fought Stipe.

You can doubt whatever you want. Your "opinion " has no relevance to reality.

I have not seen anything Ngannou's current game (after being publicly humiliated and emasculated by Stipe) to indicate that he has "vastly improved."

The only thing I've noticed is that, once again, the UFC is putting immobile (and old) cans in front of Frances again, whom he has knocked-out with impunity.

Yes, naturally, Frances is probably improved in "some" aspects, over the past three years; but it appears to be negligible. There has been nothing in Frances' fight form to indicate he's anything other than the same hyperactive slugger, with tremendous power, but little brains, and little stamina..

His KO over Rozenstruik, for example, showed me absolutely nothing.

It was a linear assault of absolutely no technical ability, savvy, etc.

Just two big powerful whales, flailing at each other, with Rozenstruik getting the worst of it.

The only way Frances will win this fight will not be because of any "vast improvement" on his part, but rather by a declining (due to age) of Stipe.

Stipe will forever be the better, more rounded, true MMA force ... while Frances will never be anything other than a one-dimensional brute.

 

[Blayt7hh]

Conor was already about as good as he is ever going to get as a grappler. Francis was still relatively green at it. Whether Francis has improved or not and if it is enough, I guess we will see. Plus, obviously Francis has the x factor with his insane power

 

[McGeezle]

Stipe can't make a single mistake, had to fight perfect to just about hold him down last time and now Ngannou has improved, so stipe has to fight even more perfect...

 

[613]

Because Stipe looks like he has started declining and Khabib looks like he has gotten better every fight

 

[Mga223]

You can doubt whatever you want. Your "opinion " has no relevance to reality.

I have not seen anything Ngannou's current game (after being publicly humiliated and emasculated by Stipe) to indicate that he has "vastly improved."

The only thing I've noticed is that, once again, the UFC is putting immobile (and old) cans in front of Frances again, whom he has knocked-out with impunity.

Yes, naturally, Frances is probably improved in "some" aspects, over the past three years; but it appears to be negligible. There has been nothing in Frances' fight form to indicate he's anything other than the same hyperactive slugger, with tremendous power, but little brains, and little stamina..

His KO over Rozenstruik, for example, showed me absolutely nothing.

It was a linear assault of absolutely no technical ability, savvy, etc.

Just two big powerful whales, flailing at each other, with Rozenstruik getting the worst of it.

The only way Frances will win this fight will not be because of any "vast improvement" on his part, but rather by a declining (due to age) of Stipe.

Stipe will forever be the better, more rounded, true MMA force ... while Frances will never be anything other than a one-dimensional brute.

Lmao at saying stipe has proved then in the next post saying if he loses its because his old...

 

[Bowel-forged Stool]

These Khabib fans are insane. We need Conor to knock Khabib senseless so these fair-weather fans can go elsewhere. The rest of us real fans will keep rooting for Conor.

 

[NoBiasJustMMA]

You can doubt whatever you want. Your "opinion " has no relevance to reality.

I have not seen anything Ngannou's current game (after being publicly humiliated and emasculated by Stipe) to indicate that he has "vastly improved."

The only thing I've noticed is that, once again, the UFC is putting immobile (and old) cans in front of Frances again, whom he has knocked-out with impunity.

Yes, naturally, Frances is probably improved in "some" aspects, over the past three years; but it appears to be negligible. There has been nothing in Frances' fight form to indicate he's anything other than the same hyperactive slugger, with tremendous power, but little brains, and little stamina..

His KO over Rozenstruik, for example, showed me absolutely nothing.

It was a linear assault of absolutely no technical ability, savvy, etc.

Just two big powerful whales, flailing at each other, with Rozenstruik getting the worst of it.

The only way Frances will win this fight will not be because of any "vast improvement" on his part, but rather by a declining (due to age) of Stipe.

Stipe will forever be the better, more rounded, true MMA force ... while Frances will never be anything other than a one-dimensional brute.

You think that Ngannou has been training for only 8 years and stopped improving after the first 5 years while he hasn't taken much damage whatsoever in his career, and hasn't had any major injuries and is only 34 years old. That opinion makes no sense and isn't based on reality at all, get mad all you want it doesn't change that your opinion on this topic doesn't make any sense.