Horse hair gloves hit harder? wtf?

[The Can Opener]

Horse hair gloves a game changer for Horn

By Ray Wheatley – World of Boxing

WBO welterweight champion Jeff Horn will be using Everlast gloves made of horse hair for his contest against WBO mandatory contender Terence Crawford for their June 9 showdown in Las Vegas. Horn’s trainer Glenn Rushton stated that horse hair gloves can be easily manipulated to expose the knuckles and increase punching power. He describing them as “Claytons gloves: the gloves you have when you’re not having a glove.”

Rushton said it was a decision the unbeaten Crawford would live to regret. “It’s a real game-changer and it probably doubles the shock, I would say, through the glove. If he wants to go back to the primitive days, if he wants a gladiator contest and fight with these on, then so be it.”



What the hell is this all about? I am no gloves expert at all so none of this really makes any sense to me. Can someone explain or is this more Horn trainer nonsense? Also why is he basically admitting that he plans to "manipulate" the gloves? The shit?

 

[dembones22]

Horse hair gloves a game changer for Horn

By Ray Wheatley – World of Boxing

WBO welterweight champion Jeff Horn will be using Everlast gloves made of horse hair for his contest against WBO mandatory contender Terence Crawford for their June 9 showdown in Las Vegas. Horn’s trainer Glenn Rushton stated that horse hair gloves can be easily manipulated to expose the knuckles and increase punching power. He describing them as “Claytons gloves: the gloves you have when you’re not having a glove.”

Rushton said it was a decision the unbeaten Crawford would live to regret. “It’s a real game-changer and it probably doubles the shock, I would say, through the glove. If he wants to go back to the primitive days, if he wants a gladiator contest and fight with these on, then so be it.”



What the hell is this all about? I am no gloves expert at all so none of this really makes any sense to me. Can someone explain or is this more Horn trainer nonsense? Also why is he basically admitting that he plans to "manipulate" the gloves? The shit?

These are the same gloves that Mayweather denied Maidana to use in their first and 2nd fights.



I own all the major brand fight gloves and Everlast MX fight gloves are less protective than say their Powerlock fight gloves which are foam padded. But the difference between the Everlast MX fight glove and a GRANT fight glove is negligible IMO. I think Grant might use a very thin layer of foam on top of the quilted horse hair which is what the Everlast MX fight gloves are padded with.

 

[BluntTrauma21]

I'm no expert either but I think a lot of gloves nowadays are filled with foam or something similar. I think it's easier to displace gloves padded with horse hair and therefore land with more effect b/c the padding can be manipulated.

At least that's what I understand of it. Gloves like Cleto Reyes's are still filled with horse hair rather than a foam like substance, I think. You see a guy like Floy wearing big puffy Grant's and that's better padding since he has notoriously fragile hands and didn't rely on his power much anyway.

 

[dembones22]

@The Can Opener


I mean a pro fight hand wrap is applied with gause over the knuckles so the whole " exposing the knuckles " thing is sort of a moot point. If you hit hard you hit hard regardless of foam or horsehair padded gloves especially at 10 oz. What I will say is that horse hair gloves are better for parrying your opponents shots. The Everlast MX fight gloves in paticular a very roomy for a fight glove and I am able to use a oversized pro training wrap to use when training which I cannot do with narrower gloves like the Cleto Reyes fight glove.


This is a gear and equipment forum question, btw.

 

[BluntTrauma21]

@The Can Opener


I mean a pro fight hand wrap is applied with gause over the knuckles so the whole " exposing the knuckles " thing is sort of a moot point. If you hit hard you hit hard regardless of foam or horsehair padded gloves especially at 10 oz. What I will say is that horse hair gloves are better for parrying your opponents shots. The Everlast MX fight gloves in paticular a very roomy for a fight glove and I am able to use a oversized pro training wrap to use when training which I cannot do with narrower gloves like the Cleto Reyes fight glove.


This is a gear and equipment forum question, btw.

That's kind of why I never liked it when ppl use the term puncher's glove and boxer's glove. You hear Cleto Reyes are supposed to be a puncher's gloves and Grant's are supposed to be a boxer's gloves but if I punch really hard. shouldn't it matter a lot less what kind of gloves I wear? In theory if you don't have much power shouldn't you be using the gloves that allow you to land harder since it should matter more to a guy with less power?

I get it but I don't, if that makes sense. I know why ppl use the terms, but it also feels backwards to me.

 

[Minowafanatic]

I've had horsehair gloves, loads of every kind of boxing gloves and with horsehair fight gloves you can wear them in a little on the pads before the bout and keep pushing down into them, such that the padding moulds around your knuckles moreso than with other types (like, you can feel your knuckles pushing through into the lining of the leather almost, especially once you wear them down even a little and beat them up a bit). So, it's good for punching power as there's less of substance between your knuckles and your opponent. It obviously doesn't double the shock, it just makes a small difference is all. Anecdotally I feel like it impacts how easily you're able to cut and mark up your opponent too. Horn's trainer is overstating things.

 

[hiphopnazi]

Team Horn for win!

The glove statement is just distraction from his real weapon, the headbutt jab.

 

[dembones22]

That's kind of why I never liked it when ppl use the term puncher's glove and boxer's glove. You hear Cleto Reyes are supposed to be a puncher's gloves and Grant's are supposed to be a boxer's gloves but if I punch really hard. shouldn't it matter a lot less what kind of gloves I wear? In theory if you don't have much power shouldn't you be using the gloves that allow you to land harder since it should matter more?

I get it but I don't, if that makes sense. I know why ppl use the terms, but it also feels backwards to me.

In my opinion, the wrap is more important than the actual glove in a boxing match. If you have power you have power. You wouldn't want to have your bare knuckle exposed while that may do more superficial damage to your opponent you also greatly increase the risk of injuring or breaking your hand. The protection of the hand wrap and glove is what allows the fighter to punch harder and for longer than he would most likely would without it.

The gloves come in different padding styles and are slightly different in profiles and also vary in thumb positions which is very important in the ability to make a proper fist.

 

[Kovalev's "Man Bag"]

Correct. Horse hair gloves = more horsepower (hp).

 

[SSgt Dickweed]

Horses?

 

[mozfonky]

personally, i never liked getting hit by the foam gloves, the texture is too stiff, and when you get hit there is a second reaction by the foam bouncing your head back, horsehair doesnt do that, feels more natural.

 

[HelpYouFall]

 

[dembones22]

In this post we learn where Ciara and Beyonce source their hair from...





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[4daLuLZ]

Hmm......looks like Canelo got Sarah Jessica Parker on that clenbuterol too.

 

[Minowafanatic]

personally, i never liked getting hit by the foam gloves, the texture is too stiff, and when you get hit there is a second reaction by the foam bouncing your head back, horsehair doesnt do that, feels more natural.

when was the last time you got hit by a foam glove?

 

[mozfonky]

when was the last time you got hit by a foam glove?

been years, maybe 13, even longer for horsehair, over thirty years. I'm almost fifty, i don't go around trying to get hit by no gloves anymore.

 

[BoxingMMA]

Cleto Reyes, fuck the rest. Best gloves I’ve ever used

 

[stuff jones]

Horse hair gloves a game changer for Horn

By Ray Wheatley – World of Boxing

WBO welterweight champion Jeff Horn will be using Everlast gloves made of horse hair for his contest against WBO mandatory contender Terence Crawford for their June 9 showdown in Las Vegas. Horn’s trainer Glenn Rushton stated that horse hair gloves can be easily manipulated to expose the knuckles and increase punching power. He describing them as “Claytons gloves: the gloves you have when you’re not having a glove.”

Rushton said it was a decision the unbeaten Crawford would live to regret. “It’s a real game-changer and it probably doubles the shock, I would say, through the glove. If he wants to go back to the primitive days, if he wants a gladiator contest and fight with these on, then so be it.”



What the hell is this all about? I am no gloves expert at all so none of this really makes any sense to me. Can someone explain or is this more Horn trainer nonsense? Also why is he basically admitting that he plans to "manipulate" the gloves? The shit?

The fuck sounds plenty dumb as it is. No need to apply the same syntex with the shit.

 

[mozfonky]

people fought with horsehair a lot longer than they did foam, much ado about nothing i think. horsehair was more natural all the way around, i wonder if anyone has ever looked at which glove causes more damage, i was never damaged with horsehair, the foam gloves broke my nose with glancing punches, foam pushes back when it's pushed in a lot more than horsehair. my experience anyway.

 

[Prefect]

I don't have any experience of foam vs horse but less padding means mors power. Power is energy divided time. Energy will be the same but less padding means energy is transfered quicker ie more power in addition to greater forces due to the forces spread over a smaller area.