Horror News & Discussion Redux

[Skip Reming]

And the reviews are just as polarizing as Only God Forgives. Last time we got the Gosling hand in the womb scene, hear this time we get a lesbian necrophilia scene. Thats my boy Refn

i just saw Drive (mainly for the soundtrack as i am obsessed with synthwave) but the movie did not do much for me. Hopefully NA is better (in q)

 

[BisexualMMA]

The Green Inferno.

I suppose I should know better than to expect anything but horrible dialogue and annoying characters from Eli Roth... Anyway, I guess it sort of delivered on the torture gore stuff. I think I'm just not an Eli Roth fan.

Also, looked weird and cheap when the end credits had the actors' Twitter handles listed.

 

[Protectandserve]

A few horror movies I've seen over the last while...

The Dunwich Horror. 1970 movie I checked out because it was the first on-screen performance of Talia Shire (I think). Complete waste of time. Very early performance by Dean Stockwell also. You could tell he had a good screen presence and might amount to something.

Parasite. 1982 movie that might have been Demi Moore's first performance. Another complete waste of time.

Bone Tomahawk. That was a pretty good movie. I thought it was much better than the Hateful Eight, since that's another recent Kurt Russell western. Bone Tomahawk did a very good job of leaving the horror to the imagination, Jaws style. Good performances from everybody involved. Richard Jenkins completely disappeared into his character.

I really enjoyed Bone Tomahawk. Solid performance by the while cast and I really enjoyed how each character had personality.

Matthew Fox was great and as usual Kurt Russell was phenomenal.

 

[Joseph Budden]

The Green Inferno.

I suppose I should know better than to expect anything but horrible dialogue and annoying characters from Eli Roth... Anyway, I guess it sort of delivered on the torture gore stuff. I think I'm just not an Eli Roth fan.

Also, looked weird and cheap when the end credits had the actors' Twitter handles listed.

Loved Green Inferno, but thats cause I also love 70s and 80s schlock italian horror. The dialogue was purposely hilariously bad.

Did not like Knock, Knock very much though

 

[HenryFlower]

What would be a good horror film to watch while rekt on ketamine? I'm looking for something atmospheric, but also a bit campy or brutal. I was thinking the original The Texas Chainsaw Massacre, but any recommendations would be great.

 

[BisexualMMA]

Loved Green Inferno, but thats cause I also love 70s and 80s schlock italian horror. The dialogue was purposely hilariously bad.

Did not like Knock, Knock very much though

Was the dialogue intentionally bad though? Has Eli Roth ever written dialogue that was markedly better than this?

 

[Joseph Budden]

Was the dialogue intentionally bad though? Has Eli Roth ever written dialogue that was markedly better than this?

Yes, it was. I saw the movie when it came out, so I can't remember specific examples but remember there were a few. Eli Roth is huge fan of giallo's, Green Inferno was based off his love for Cannibal Holocaust. Giallo's are infamous for their hilariously bad dialogue. A good example is the movie Demons. A classic giallo with soooo much schlocky shit going down, but still so much fun.

 

[BisexualMMA]

Yes, it was. I saw the movie when it came out, so I can't remember specific examples but remember there were a few. Eli Roth is huge fan of giallo's, Green Inferno was based off his love for Cannibal Holocaust. Giallo's are infamous for their hilariously bad dialogue. A good example is the movie Demons. A classic giallo with soooo much schlocky shit going down, but still so much fun.

I just feel that a writer like Eli Roth isn't in a position to write bad dialogue intentionally. Would his attempt at good dialogue have been any different? The movie started with faux-Tarantino dialogue about Jewish identity stuff that was exactly what I would expect from a legit attempt by Eli Roth to channel Tarantino. I think it just sounds like a way for Roth to legitimize his typical questionable writing in this case.

 

[Joseph Budden]

I just feel that a writer like Eli Roth isn't in a position to write bad dialogue intentionally. Would his attempt at good dialogue have been any different? The movie started with faux-Tarantino dialogue about Jewish identity stuff that was exactly what I would expect from a legit attempt by Eli Roth to channel Tarantino. I think it just sounds like a way for Roth to legitimize his typical questionable writing in this case.

I love Eli for staying true to who he is. Green Inferno understandably got very mixed reactions, and I think its safe to say the only people who enjoyed it are familiar with giallos. Otherwise a lot of the movie flies over your head as he pays homage.

The dialogue in Knock, Knock (even though I wasn't a fan), Hostel, etc. is markedly different. I highly suggest you check out some classic giallos, they are great and will give you a better understanding of what Eli was looking to accomplish with Green Inferno.

 

[HenryFlower]

+ Italian mondo films

 

[Shamu68]

Yes, it was. I saw the movie when it came out, so I can't remember specific examples but remember there were a few. Eli Roth is huge fan of giallo's, Green Inferno was based off his love for Cannibal Holocaust. Giallo's are infamous for their hilariously bad dialogue. A good example is the movie Demons. A classic giallo with soooo much schlocky shit going down, but still so much fun.

Ah, that makes sense. I was definitely getting a Cannibal Holocaust vibe from it. I just wasn't sure if it was intentional or not. I went through a (long and extended) giallo phase.

Since I was just reading through the Old Boy thread I was reminded of one of my favorite Japanese zombie/horror movies - Versus. Totally over the top and insane but just so much fun

 

[TrueBias]

Eli Roth sucks monster dick. Hes horrible.

 

[BisexualMMA]

I love Eli for staying true to who he is. Green Inferno understandably got very mixed reactions, and I think its safe to say the only people who enjoyed it are familiar with giallos. Otherwise a lot of the movie flies over your head as he pays homage.

The dialogue in Knock, Knock (even though I wasn't a fan), Hostel, etc. is markedly different. I highly suggest you check out some classic giallos, they are great and will give you a better understanding of what Eli was looking to accomplish with Green Inferno.

I'm not sure which movies would qualify, but I've seen Cannibal Holocaust. Needless to say, it crossed my mind as I watched a cannibal holocaust occur in the Green Inferno. I've seen a good number of Dario Argento and Lamberto Bava movies. I didn't like Suspiria very much - it was really just a nothing movie made slightly unique because they used a lot of different colored gels while lighting the rooms (for no real dramatic purpose).

I thought Demons 1 and 2 were very effective. The rest of the Demons series wasn't very good. I've seen several others. No point going on.

The thing that bugged me about the Green Inferno is that it was almost a very good horror. It didn't miss the mark by that much. I wouldn't even have minded the on-the-nose dialogue so much if it hadn't served to establish almost all of the characters as unlikable. I actually wanted most of them to die, or was indifferent.

Also, I eventually figured that the senior professor guy that got them into it was trying to keep the natives fed by members of his party until the mercenaries came, but for all the dumb dialogue they wasted on nothing, they never actually bothered to spell out his intentions, say, with an argument about group strategy.

The gore almost delivered perfectly. But some shots and editing weren't very good. When the fat guy (the first victim) got cut up alive, I thought the old hag ate his tongue first. I couldn't see what she cut off. Then four parts of his body later, she cut off and ate his tongue. I remember there was another confusingly edited gore sequence.

And I don't know what was up with that completely random scene in the middle where the girl suddenly gets diarrhea for 30 seconds. It wasn't scary, and it wasn't funny either. It was like a South Park joke poorly executed, but by then the stakes were way too high for fart jokes to be effective. People were being dissected alive at that point. Eli should have definitely known that this should have been left on the cutting room floor. It was like he had written the movie around that fart scene in the middle and couldn't let go of it.

If they had set up likable characters instead of annoying dorks at the start, tightened up some of the shooting and editing in a couple places, lost the diarrhea stuff, and a few other changes...it would have really worked for me.

I will give it to Eli Roth that his horrors do usually look like real movies. They're generally shot and edited pretty well and don't look like cheap digital crap. There's just something missing, and it's usually likable characters.

 

[BisexualMMA]

The Beyond (1981)...

Did anyone notice how bizarrely inappropriate the music was for some of the scenes?

The cinematography in this movie is great, but it really doesn't have much else going for it. I really never had an inkling who any of the characters were or what was going on.

 

[Bobby Boulders]

Watching Psycho II for the first time.

So far, so good. Good mystery going on.

 

[vcmmafan]

Anyone here ever play PT?

 

[Blood Python]

thug life Bobby

is that Eli Roth Clown movie worth checking out?

I just watched it and enjoyed it.

 

[Phokuz]

Anyone here ever play PT?

I have. Scariest video game experience ever.

 

[Dragonlordxxxxx]

Trailer for 31 Teases Rob Zombie’s Most Twisted Film Yet

The first trailer for filmmaker Rob Zombie’s new film 31 has landed online, and filthy horror antics abound. The story takes place on the night before Halloween and revolves around five carnival workers who are taken hostage and forced to play a game of life or death called “31”, during which they have 12 hours to try to survive against an array of madmen.

This film looks like Zombie saw the Purge movies, laughed, and decided to make his own twisted take on a similar premise and push the violence even further. This definitely does not look like a film for the faint of heart, and if you weren’t a Rob Zombie fan before, it doesn’t look like this will change your mind.

The film stars Sheri Moon Zombie, Malcolm McDowell, Meg Foster, Elizabeth Daily, Sandra Rosko, and Richard Brake. 31 opens in theaters on October 21st.



First Trailer for ‘31’ Teases Rob Zombie’s Most Twisted Film Yet

 

[Dragonlordxxxxx]

THE CONJURING 2 Spinoff THE NUN in the Works at New Line

New Line is developing a bad habit. Fresh off the success of The Conjuring 2, the film company is spinning off the villain of the supernatural thriller, the demonic nun, into her own movie.

David Leslie Johnson, who co-wrote Conjuring 2, has been hired to pen what is being titled The Nun. James Wan, who directed the Conjuring movies, and Peter Safran, who produced them, are reuniting to produce the spinoff.

What is noteworthy about the demon nun character is that she didn’t exist until about three months before Conjuring 2 opened as she was only added during last-minute reshoots.

The studio and Wan had a cut of the movie, which stars Patrick Wilson and Vera Farmiga as paranormal investigators, in which the antagonist was a demonic figure with horns. The studio was ready to release that version but at the last minute, Wan was struck by a revelation. And so he came up with a new concept, a demon nun, which he pitched to New Line execs. And even though the late-in-the-game change could have spooked some execs, they gave him their blessing.

The shoot took place in March, just three months before the movie was scheduled to open on June 10. Some of the changes were minor: the art piece that Wilson is painting was altered digitally as the horned demon made way for the demon nun. Some were more extensive such as a set-piece in which Farmiga watches in terror as a shadow crawls across the wall to line up with the painting and … (well, you'll just have to see the movie to learn more). Bonnie Aarons, under heavy make-up, played the character.

The Nun will be the second spinoff from the Conjuring series, following 2014’s Annabelle. That movie proved to be a horror hit when it ultimately grossed over $256 million worldwide (or nearly a 40 times its production budget). New Line has now slated an Annabelle sequel for 2017.

'The Conjuring 2' Spinoff 'The Nun' in the Works at New Line (Exclusive)