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Horror News & Discussion Redux

Rewatched the cut version of Rob Zombies Halloween 2 with his commentary to try to get a better idea of what he was thinking lol, it seems like he gets so stuck on ideas like the Rabbit in Red set and the musical performance scene that those become a bigger deal than the whole story.

The ending makes more sense when he explains it but it still could've been handled better, obviously I had a boring weekend to be watching a movie with commentary on haha.
 
I never noticed this before.

from bloodydisgusting.com
http://bloody-disgusting.com/editor...ve-probably-never-noticed-friday-13th-part-2/

"Did you revisit Friday the 13th Part 2 this past Friday the 13th? We bet you didn’t notice this.

Before cutting ahead to several years after the events of the original classic, 1981 sequel Friday the 13th Part 2 first provides us with a little insight into what Alice Hardy’s life is like in the immediate wake of her being forced to decapitate the vengeful Mrs. Voorhees. In the film’s opening sequence, which is set just a couple months after Pamela’s murder spree, Jason breaks into a still-traumatized Alice’s apartment and makes quick work of her, first reminding her of what she did to his mother (not that she could ever forget) and then sticking an ice pick into her temple. Just like that, the first film’s final girl uneventfully takes her final breath.

Five years later, a new group of counselors arrive at Crystal Lake, and as we learn courtesy of a campfire story told by Paul Holt, Alice Hardy had mysteriously vanished two months after surviving her hellish ordeal on that fateful Friday the 13th. Of course, we know what the police do not – Alice’s isn’t “missing” so much as she is dead – but Paul’s spooky tale does indicate that Alice’s body was never found. In other words, Jason didn’t just kill her and leave her corpse in her apartment, but rather he must’ve disposed of it in some way. So what the hell did he do with it?

If you’re paying VERY close attention, the film goes on to subtly answer that question.

Towards the end of Friday the 13th Part 2, Ginny Field stumbles into Jason’s dilapidated shack out in the woods, and there she discovers that the masked maniac has kept his mom’s severed head all these years. Furthermore, he has used his mother’s head as the centerpiece of a tribute to her, and you may have spotted that a couple freshly-killed bodies surround the altar – namely, the corpses of Terry and the cop who had found Jason’s shack earlier in the film. But there’s another dead body that’s positioned front and center, and it’s clear that the victim has been dead a whole lot longer than the others.

The camera doesn’t linger on it for more than a couple seconds, but if you freeze frame at just the right moment, you’ll see that the corpse at the base of Mrs. Voorhees’ altar has something sticking out of its head. Embedded into the weathered and worn skull is what certainly appears to be an ice pick, and wouldn’t you know it, it’s sticking out of the exact spot where Alice Hardy was stabbed years prior.

Yes, five years after murdering her, Jason is still in possession of Alice’s corpse, and in a bizarre tribute to his mother, he has made it a part of the very same altar that proudly displays Pamela’s head. Putting yourself in Jason’s mindset for just a minute, it actually makes perfect sense, with Pamela’s killer being offered up to her in the afterlife. It’s still unclear how far Jason traveled to track down and kill Alice, and the thought of him hitching a ride on the Greyhound is nothing if not a humorous one, but there’s something sweet about him getting revenge and then presenting his kill to his mommy, isn’t there?

I’m kidding. It’s totally sick and creepy.

Did you ever notice this?!"

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friday-the-13th-alice-corpse.jpg
 
That's an awesome bit of continuity.
 
I really liked The Invitation. It's a solid, slow burn thriller with some horror elements. I thought it was a little predictable but not in a way that detracted from it at all. - ( 8/10 )

I also watched High Rise which I have been looking forward to for a while. I'm a big fan of Ben Wheatley but High Rise is a mess of a film. I think that's kind of what he was going for but it didn't really work for me. There are moments of brilliance here and there but the movie doesn't flow well and at times feels incoherent. - ( 6/10 )
 
I really liked The Invitation. It's a solid, slow burn thriller with some horror elements. I thought it was a little predictable but not in a way that detracted from it at all. - ( 8/10 )

I also watched High Rise which I have been looking forward to for a while. I'm a big fan of Ben Wheatley but High Rise is a mess of a film. I think that's kind of what he was going for but it didn't really work for me. There are moments of brilliance here and there but the movie doesn't flow well and at times feels incoherent. - ( 6/10 )
I've heard similar reviews for High Rise. Thanks for the update.

I've heard The Boy was a good popcorn flick. Probably going to check that one out as well.

Do any of you guys listen to Horror Podcast? Just started listening to Shock Wave, the first episode is an interview with the guys in charge of scream factory. Very interesting. Also learned that The boy who cried werewolf and Sssssss were original released as a double feature. Might have to host a little movie party showing.
 
I've heard similar reviews for High Rise. Thanks for the update.

I've heard The Boy was a good popcorn flick. Probably going to check that one out as well.

Do any of you guys listen to Horror Podcast? Just started listening to Shock Wave, the first episode is an interview with the guys in charge of scream factory. Very interesting. Also learned that The boy who cried werewolf and Sssssss were original released as a double feature. Might have to host a little movie party showing.

i watch double feature which is pretty good

the hallmark of a good horror podcast is if they like children of the corn. If they don't like that then they are not horror fans worth listening to
 
I'm super disappointed Damien isn't getting renewed. I understand why the ratings were so low though. It started off pretty slow and I was struggling to stick with it but around episode 4 or 5 it picked up but by then I think most had given up on it. It's only 10 episodes and works somewhat as a standalone single season show. I would recommend it when it drops on any free streaming format.
 
I never noticed this before.

from bloodydisgusting.com
http://bloody-disgusting.com/editor...ve-probably-never-noticed-friday-13th-part-2/

"Did you revisit Friday the 13th Part 2 this past Friday the 13th? We bet you didn’t notice this.

Before cutting ahead to several years after the events of the original classic, 1981 sequel Friday the 13th Part 2 first provides us with a little insight into what Alice Hardy’s life is like in the immediate wake of her being forced to decapitate the vengeful Mrs. Voorhees. In the film’s opening sequence, which is set just a couple months after Pamela’s murder spree, Jason breaks into a still-traumatized Alice’s apartment and makes quick work of her, first reminding her of what she did to his mother (not that she could ever forget) and then sticking an ice pick into her temple. Just like that, the first film’s final girl uneventfully takes her final breath.

Five years later, a new group of counselors arrive at Crystal Lake, and as we learn courtesy of a campfire story told by Paul Holt, Alice Hardy had mysteriously vanished two months after surviving her hellish ordeal on that fateful Friday the 13th. Of course, we know what the police do not – Alice’s isn’t “missing” so much as she is dead – but Paul’s spooky tale does indicate that Alice’s body was never found. In other words, Jason didn’t just kill her and leave her corpse in her apartment, but rather he must’ve disposed of it in some way. So what the hell did he do with it?

If you’re paying VERY close attention, the film goes on to subtly answer that question.

Towards the end of Friday the 13th Part 2, Ginny Field stumbles into Jason’s dilapidated shack out in the woods, and there she discovers that the masked maniac has kept his mom’s severed head all these years. Furthermore, he has used his mother’s head as the centerpiece of a tribute to her, and you may have spotted that a couple freshly-killed bodies surround the altar – namely, the corpses of Terry and the cop who had found Jason’s shack earlier in the film. But there’s another dead body that’s positioned front and center, and it’s clear that the victim has been dead a whole lot longer than the others.

The camera doesn’t linger on it for more than a couple seconds, but if you freeze frame at just the right moment, you’ll see that the corpse at the base of Mrs. Voorhees’ altar has something sticking out of its head. Embedded into the weathered and worn skull is what certainly appears to be an ice pick, and wouldn’t you know it, it’s sticking out of the exact spot where Alice Hardy was stabbed years prior.

Yes, five years after murdering her, Jason is still in possession of Alice’s corpse, and in a bizarre tribute to his mother, he has made it a part of the very same altar that proudly displays Pamela’s head. Putting yourself in Jason’s mindset for just a minute, it actually makes perfect sense, with Pamela’s killer being offered up to her in the afterlife. It’s still unclear how far Jason traveled to track down and kill Alice, and the thought of him hitching a ride on the Greyhound is nothing if not a humorous one, but there’s something sweet about him getting revenge and then presenting his kill to his mommy, isn’t there?

I’m kidding. It’s totally sick and creepy.

Did you ever notice this?!"

friday-the-13th-alice-death.jpg


friday-the-13th-alice-corpse.jpg

Friday the 13th really was a great series with interesting lore before it turned into lunacy around episode 5 or so.
 
Jason Lives >

It was the best film after the first four, but by then it had descended into partial self-parody and the production / visuals had also changed. It wasn't as gritty or suspenseful, and looked kind of like an 80s music video. By part six, it had just been mostly severed from the backstory involving Crystal Lake, the mother, their motivations for killing. It was fun, but by then it was clear that Jason would just kill teens and get killed, then wake up for the next movie wherever they needed him to be.
 
Just watched The Visit last night. Thoroughly entertaining. The young boy was great.
 
I'm just going to pop this comment here for any horror film fans, as I have in another horror movie thread.

DO NOT WASTE YOUR TIME watching The Witch (2016).

It got a good score on Rotten Tomatoes which swayed me.

The missus and I watched it last night, well the first 30 mins then fast forwarded through the rest.

What a load of crap, what was RT thinking of?
 
Thought The Witch was good, for the most part. Slow burner, sure, but a good film overall.
 
Thought The Witch was good, for the most part. Slow burner, sure, but a good film overall.

I just don't get how it can be classed as any good.

Me and the young one watched the last witch hunter and I thought that was better and that was complete gash.
 
I'm just going to pop this comment here for any horror film fans, as I have in another horror movie thread.

DO NOT WASTE YOUR TIME watching The Witch (2016).

It got a good score on Rotten Tomatoes which swayed me.

The missus and I watched it last night, well the first 30 mins then fast forwarded through the rest.

What a load of crap, what was RT thinking of?

This screen shot would be captioned "Son I am disappoint" if I had any interweb skills.

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To each his on though.:D
 
I'm just going to pop this comment here for any horror film fans, as I have in another horror movie thread.

DO NOT WASTE YOUR TIME watching The Witch (2016).

It got a good score on Rotten Tomatoes which swayed me.

The missus and I watched it last night, well the first 30 mins then fast forwarded through the rest.

What a load of crap, what was RT thinking of?


Just watched it last night. I thought it was great. But it is sort of classified as horror only in the loosest sense because there isnt much else to call it. But it's essentially a Shakespearian tragedy and it transports you into the setting every bit as effectively as academy award caliber films like The Revenant. Definitely not for the gore hounds.
 
Jason Lives >

I think they should be considered 2 different series. There is 1-4 and then the crapfest after that. No matter which you like better they are just so different they should just be completely separate things.

But I will put David Cronenberg in Jason X as being the best thing after 1-4 (1,2,4,3)

And this might be the best use of television in a movie
 
Posted this in "rate the last movie you saw" but I figured since it's horror, I'll post it here too...


A movie called He Knows You're Alone from 1980. A Halloween-ish horror that is really quite bad. Bad acting, far worse writing. In fact, it's a shockingly bad script, even for this time and genre. I felt bad for the actors in almost every scene, having to pass off those words as something real humans would say. The camera work is just good enough to be considered a professional project.

It's only notable because it was one of the earliest on-screen performances of Tom Hanks.

It also has two early performances from James Rebhorn (Carlito's Way) and Paul Gleason (the principal from the Breakfast Club).

What stood out was how good Paul Gleason was with his awful material. Of all the cast, he was the one you could tell was going places in the future. He was just the #2 cop investigating the murders but he was acting everyone else in his scenes under the table. He was way too good for that role or this movie.

Tom Hanks did pretty well delivering the garbage they wrote for him. I think he actually (out of desperation) semi-directed some of his own scenes and worked props into them that weren't written in the script. In one scene, they're standing around talking and doing nothing and he asks a kid in the scene for some candies so he can at least chew them while he's listening to the other people's shitty lines. I'm willing to bet that wasn't in the script.
 
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