Historically which bantamweights do u consider alltime greats?

[ExitLUPin]

Besides flyweight its the thinnest division ever.

IMO theres only 6

- Dominick Cruz
- TJ Dillashaw
- Miguel Torres
- Renan Barao
- Joseph Benavidez
- Urijah Faber

Bowles had a great run at one point but i wouldnt consider him on that level due to lack of consistency.

Bibiano is really good but wouldnt put him as an alltimer either. Moraes has a chance to get there, hopefully he fights in UFC.

Are there any other bantamweights u would put there?

 

[Coolidge]

1. Dominick Cruz
2. Urijah Faber
3. Miguel Torres
4. Mighty Mouse

 

[milenss]

TJ is the #1.

 

[Lanx]

1. Dominick Cruz



Everybody else is busy watching Domin8tor tape and going "HOW THE FUCK DOES HE DO THAT?"

 

[NightwingBJJ]

Cruz is definitely Number 1....right @Homeless Infant?

 

[ExitLUPin]

4. Mighty Mouse

LOL how is DJ close to an alltime great BW? Flyweight yes.......@ BW he barely did shit and got a shitle shot off a robbery of Miguel. Dude was barely top 10 and only got there b/c of that robbery.

 

[Coolidge]

LOL how is DJ close to an alltime great BW? Flyweight yes.......@ BW he barely did shit and got a shitle shot off a robbery of Miguel. Dude was barely top 10 and only got there b/c of that robbery.

For the record: Mighty Mouse won the striking exchanges and had top control for most of the fight, and he did all of this with an injury. Failed sub attempts don't trump these things.

 

[ExitLUPin]

For the record: Mighty Mouse won the striking exchanges and had top control, and he did all of this with an injury. Failed sub attempts don't trump these things.

The striking was irrelevant as like 95% of the fight was on the ground. He didnt have much control on top at all and wouldnt follow under "significant grappling offense" under scoring criteria. Being on top constantly defending =/= control. Miguel had better offense from the bottom which is why every media outlet scored the fight for him and why most consider it one of the biggest robberies of 2011.

 

[batistaBOMB]

Cruz is not only the best BW....but also one of the best p4p ever

 

[Coolidge]

The striking was irrelevant as like 95% of the fight was on the ground. He didnt have much control on top at all and wouldnt follow under "significant grappling offense" under scoring criteria. Being on top constantly defending =/= control. Miguel had better offense from the bottom which is why every media outlet scored the fight for him and why most consider it one of the biggest robberies of 2011.

What's irrelevant are the media scores. The three ringside judges are the only ones that matter. 'constantly defending' According to Fight Metric, Torres had three sub attempts, five passes, and two reversals. That's all well and good, but you also have to factor in Mighty Mouse's significant strikes advantage, five takedowns (those are highly important in MMA judging), three passes, and one reversal. To say Mighty Mouse lost, let alone robbed Torres, is hilarious.

 

[BisexualMMA]

For the record: Mighty Mouse won the striking exchanges and had top control for most of the fight, and he did all of this with an injury. Failed sub attempts don't trump these things.

Lol at "it's not gay to be attracted to transsexuals" with a picture of Cat Zingano right below.

 

[theincognito]

Too early in the division's history for a list but Cruz is #1

 

[dickcheney]

I didn't follow non pride Japanese mma too closely, but there are probably some shooto greats that belong on here that were holding down the division pre UFC

Was kid at 135 roughly?

 

[daltonames]

How you got benavidez on there?
Faber was a FW in his prime, WEC days. 3 failed title shots, not sure I'd mark him as all time great at BW. Think the list begins and ends with Cruz and Barao. TJ in contention but too soon to say for me.

 

[Andre Xiong]

in no order,
Torres (for sure, he went on a good run and was super exciting until his exponential, spiral downfall)
Cruz
Faber (though his title was at 145 pounds) he beats all but Barao and Cruz

other than that it's too soon for the div.

 

[$uicideboy$]

The striking was irrelevant as like 95% of the fight was on the ground. He didnt have much control on top at all and wouldnt follow under "significant grappling offense" under scoring criteria. Being on top constantly defending =/= control. Miguel had better offense from the bottom which is why every media outlet scored the fight for him and why most consider it one of the biggest robberies of 2011.

outstriking dominick cruz isnt irrelevant

 

[Phronimos]

Cruz. End of story.

 

[Katsumi Yamada]

I didn't follow non pride Japanese mma too closely, but there are probably some shooto greats that belong on here that were holding down the division pre UFC

Was kid at 135 roughly?

I think KID's best years were spent fighting at the 155 lb limit while weighing in below 145 lbs (without cutting) and as low as 135.

 

[YoungRonniecoleman]

Don't care but Cruz will not beat Dillasnek again

 

[dickcheney]

in no order,
Torres (for sure, he went on a good run and was super exciting until his exponential, spiral downfall)
Cruz
Faber (though his title was at 145 pounds) he beats all but Barao and Cruz

other than that it's too soon for the div.

Yeah Torres def needs to be there