Elections Hillary v. Trump Presidential Debate Three

[RockstarChris]

There are only assholes and douchbags in man land. Douchbags know what they are doing. Assholes are just assholes and don't realize they are assholes. Trump is a douchbag.

 

[Prutfis]

Benghazi and emails isn't "dirt". It's a treasonous and criminal offense and she should be in prison for life.

That's not just something "dirty" that politicians do. It's straight murder and illegal shit.

Nice to know you support treason though.

Haven´t there been multiple investigations into Benghazi, even by political opponents?

 

[Jack V Savage]

Haven´t there been multiple investigations into Benghazi, even by political opponents?

Yeah, but they didn't find any wrongdoing. Therefore, they either didn't look hard enough or were outright corrupt.

 

[Fawlty]

Yeah, but they didn't find any wrongdoing. Therefore, they either didn't look hard enough or were outright corrupt.

I've yet to hear anyone from the right comment on the absence of evidence in wikileaks for the Benghazi conspiracy theories the right has pushed. I'm enjoying that.

 

[tkotom]

CNN panels are not scientific polls. You're raging against something I wasn't even talking about.

I was talking about the 2nd one. But fair enough. I misread. My point still stands.

 

[Jack V Savage]

Not really. Plausible accountability is one of the most disingenuously used defenses in internet forums. Just like I wouldn't buy Jack claiming he's a not horrifically biased towards Hillary, I don't buy your little "Oh, me? I wouldn't do that!" routine.

Oh, that's ridiculous. You only say that because you're horrifically biased against her.

 

[GearSolidMetal]

From what i read, they didn't ask Hillary the same question, and we all know that any acknowledgement of the possibility of defeat is damaging, so that absolutely can't be a question just posed to one candidate on stage.

She's never said she would question the results if she lost. That's why she wasn't asked it.

But we all know if by some miracle that Trump wins... Hillary, Democrats, and the media will be screaming 'Russians!!!!!!!!'

 

[Gervinho]

Trump in general did better than ever. But a debate is gonna be remembered for the bad things. How can after she called him a woman abuser for over 1 hour he loses his temper and call her such a nasty woman. She really set him up for that one. Also he went into that debate needing women, so he says he will ban abortion. Then he says he may not accept the outcome of the election.

 

[ehtheist]

Oh, that's ridiculous. You only say that because you're horrifically biased against her.

Well, I do *really* hate her guts. Can't say I've kept that a secret. Though, I don't think that really weighs on the idea that you and Greoric are pretty much yin and yang in this forum...

 

[FadeLess]

This breaks down the timeline for the emails & subpoena and explains it pretty well

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-m...-trump-says-hillary-clinton-deleted-33000-em/

Thanks for the link. Its good information so i appreciate it.
That timeline somewhat favours her case , but it doesnt eliminate the fact that she destroyed , withheld and provided false information regarding the Benghazi incident.
Just like she and Obama didnt acknowledged to the American people that Benghazi was a terrorist attack, even tho they knew. As proven in her emails.
Just like the bodies of the warriors that died on the shootdown of Extortion 17 had to be cremated, cause they were supposedly burned beyond all recognition, according to the official version. Despite sworn testimony from the 1st that arrived at the scene , stating that at least 8 guys were perfectly recognizable.
Just like when she and the Obama Administration keep on saying "we are defeating terrorism", "Al-Qaeda is falling", "we will defeat ISIS", "we will provide our warriors all the necessary means for them to employ what they can do".
When in fact terrorism and ISIS have been growing, and since the Obama Administration took power , the number of American casualties more then doubled in half the time.
Cause the rules of engagement set by the Obama Administration actually impairs your warriors from having any initiative.
Thats why many vets are leaving the army , they say "i didnt enlist to be sacrificed".
Thats why Extortion 17 was shot down, they saw the talibans moving to the landing zone and they repeatedly asked for permission to shoot , yet they were repeatedly denied. Essentially making a hovering duck out of them.
Who is responsible for the orders and for the subsequent cover up of the hole incident?
Im actually baffled by Trump not mentioning the Extortion 17 and Benghazi incidents, maybe they are son and daughter of the some parents, maybe he is there so that she can win, i dont know.
Cause if he shed light on these incidents and brought it to the American people , she wouldnt stand a chance.
You probably didnt read all of this, but if you did , i apologize for the longa$$ read.
Cheers

 

[Gervinho]

First time Hillary made the audience laugh when he said U was sitting in my beautiful apartment, very beautiful and she said built with Chinese steal. Then she had this proud look on her face I delivered a joke

 

[cooks1]

No responsible American can vote for Hillary unless they want to ensure the end of the country. We're almost there given the hatred of nationalism the progressives have given their globalist brainwashing.

This line of reasoning is so feeble.

Nationalism has just as many cons as it does pros. Hitler came into power as a direct result of nationalism ffs. Rode a wave of nationalism into power in a democratically chosen coalition government.

What you want as a nation is a national spirit that tries to embrace some of the positives of nationalism (Internal Investment, National Pride, perhaps better negotiating positions) while turning away from the negatives (Separation. Isolation. Socioecomomic, ethnic, and religious cliques, increased likelihood of war).

Trump has embraced every aspect of the ugly side of nationalism, while embracing none of the positive side. HRC has done her best to embrace some of positive aspects, while avoiding the negative ones. Which is exactly what you want.

 

[waiguoren]

As for the debate, holy shit. That was the worst beating of them all, and maybe the worst I've seen in a debate. It'll be interesting to see how it moves the polls (the first debate was the turning point in this election). Trump might have already lost anyone capable of being swayed, but that performance will test that.

I think you will be sorely disappointed. I predict tightening post-debate.

 

[Deleted member 409801]

I agree that it was the best debate and Wallace deserves credit, but he also came off very ignorant and some his questions were both poor and biased (basically, "Why don't you agree to do what conservative donors want you to?").

I thought Wallace did a pretty decent job of not pussy footing around either one of them , in contrast to the rather slanted pussy footing that happened in the other 2 debates . That said , I fully realize that anything short of analingus concerning your canidate will be construed as " bias" . Wallace modestly pushed both of them .

 

[tkotom]

Trump in general did better than ever. But a debate is gonna be remembered for the bad things. How can after she called him a woman abuser for over 1 hour he loses his temper and call her such a nasty woman. She really set him up for that one. Also he went into that debate needing women, so he says he will ban abortion. Then he says he may not accept the outcome of the election.

This demonstrates the stupidity of people.

She was being incredibly nasty. She is a woman.

He's just saying what everyone was thinking. She was insulting him for no reason at every turn. She is incredibly nasty and mean spirited.

 

[tkotom]

I thought Wallace did a pretty decent job of not pussy footing around either one of them , in contrast to the rather slanted pussy footing that happened in the other 2 debates . That said , I fully realize that anything short of analingus concerning your canidate will be construed as " bias" . Wallace modestly pushed both of them .

Anderson and co did not pressure Hillary at all in the second debate. Why pretend like they did? They did the best they could to protect her.

It was 3 vs 1 in there.

 

[Jack V Savage]

Well, I do *really* hate her guts. Can't say I've kept that a secret. Though, I don't think that really weighs on the idea that you and Greoric are pretty much yin and yang in this forum...

It's not a secret, but you attempt to rationalize your emotional reaction, and that's where your false perception comes in.

And come on with the Greoric stuff. There is objective truth in our discussions, and he's always wrong. We're "yin and yang" in the sense that truth and falsity are "yin and yang."

I think you will be sorely disappointed. I predict tightening post-debate.

Trump could be at his floor or below (temporarily losing people who are strongly inclined to support him and likely to return), but he was thoroughly exposed in that debate. I felt sorry for him. Can't imagine it would do anything but hurt him.

I thought Wallace did a pretty decent job of not pussy footing around either one of them , in contrast to the rather slanted pussy footing that happened in the other 2 debates . That said , I fully realize that anything short of analingus concerning your canidate will be construed as " bias" . Wallace modestly pushed both of them .

Read my response, and try to understand it. It would help if you dropped the partisan fanatic lenses.

 

[ehtheist]

It's not a secret, but you attempt to rationalize your emotional reaction, and that's where your false perception comes in.

And come on with the Greoric stuff. There is objective truth in our discussions, and he's always wrong. We're "yin and yang" in the sense that truth and falsity are "yin and yang."

Oh? How am I rationalizing my emotional reaction?

The real question is, which one of you is the masculine force and which one is the feminine force?

 

[waiguoren]

Trump could be at his floor or below (temporarily losing people who are strongly inclined to support him and likely to return), but he was thoroughly exposed in that debate. I felt sorry for him. Can't imagine it would do anything but hurt him.

Can we turn this into a sig bet? Current RCP Average is Clinton +6.4. I bet you that in a week, this number will have fallen.

 

[cooks1]

I think you will be sorely disappointed. I predict tightening post-debate.

While I agree that Trump was not beaten as badly in this debate as the previous one, he still did pretty much an awful job, and I would not expect any meaningful tightening. And I will explain why.

Trump has this habit. It is part of his nature and it can not be changed. When at his rallies, it does not hurt him, it might even help him. But at debates, it hurts him. It hurts him really, really bad.

That habit is called saying whatever the fuck pops into your head. And he does that regardless of whether it is relevant to the question he was being asked.

I have explained this to others on here before.

Go back and watch the debate again. No Hillary parts. Just Trump. Listen to the questions he is asked. Then listen to the answers. The vast majority of the time Trump is talking, what he is talking about has nothing, NOTHING to do with the question he was asked. And it's really quite amazing because he jets from topic to topic with lightning speed. He can be asked a question, then within 2 minutes talk about 6 different things, none of them related to the question he was asked.

Now, Trump supporters give zero shits about this. They are fanatics, and the majority of them (not all, but the majority) are poorly educated. But undecided voters, and educated voters, will actually care that you are not able to answer a fucking question.

Even educated Trump supporters are fed up with that. I watched the debate last night with my brother, who is supporting Trump, and it drove him fucking nuts.

He is not going to pull very many people over to his side as a result of last night