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Here’s Even More Evidence That Plant Protein Is Better for You Than Animal Protein

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  1. TidWell Banned Banned

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    This is a credible article from Popular Science, Science is based on fact

    Sorry, steak fans.

    Here’s Even More Evidence That Plant Protein Is Better for You Than Animal Protein

    It’d be great if a burger-a-day diet was healthy. Don’t get me wrong—it’s not the worst. You’ve got protein in there and hopefully some veggies on top (and on the side) , and even some fiber from the roll (you used whole grain, right?).

    Unfortunately, study after study shows that meat as a protein source just isn't that healthy. It's far better to get that necessary protein from plants. Generally speaking, diets heavy on plant matter tend to be healthier. One study found that those eating the most fruit-and-veg-dense diets had a 31 percent lower risk of dying from cardiovascular disease and a roughly 20 percent lower risk of overall mortality than those eating animal-focused diets. That study didn't look specifically at protein, but participants consumed the other main animal-sourced food group, dairy, at about equal rates no matter what, so ultimately this comes down to replacing meat with alternative protein sources.

    And yes, these associations are correlations, not causations. But there are some legitimate reasons that plant-based protein sources like beans are a healthier alternative to bacon. The researchers aren’t saying you can’t or shouldn’t indulge in a thick Delmonico or a flame-grilled cheeseburger. Rather that you should enjoy them in moderation. Generally, research shows that less animal meat—most especially red meat—is better than more, in terms of long term health. You don’t have to love tofu, either (it’s not the best plant-based protein anyway), as long as you strive to eat more of your protein from the ground and less from animals.

    Here’s a deeper dive into why:

    Plant Protein Has More Nutrients and Fiber (Though Not All of the Amino Acids)
    Animal meat is known for its many nutrients. If you eat a variety of animal meats (light and dark, not just beef, as well as various organs), you can take in all the amino acids you need to manufacture your own bodily proteins plus vitamins like B12, niacin, thiamine, B5, B6, B7, and vitamins A and K.

    But here's the thing: If you swap all that animal protein for an equally diverse diet of plant-based proteins like nuts, seeds, and beans, you are no worse off. That's because these foods are also packed full of a similar spectrum of nutrients. The biggest difference is vitamin B12, which most plants cannot produce on their own. You can get B12 from edible seaweed and in fortified cereals, though the easiest way is through supplementation or by eating animal products.

    Given their equal vitamin profile, Andrea Giancoli, a registered dietitian in California says plant-based proteins are far healthier than their meat counterparts. That’s because, pound-for-pound, they pack more nutrients into fewer calories. They also have one thing that animal proteins completely lack: fiber. (Except for things like tofu, which is processed, Giancoli notes.) Let’s not forget the fiber. Fiber aids in digestion, promotes a healthy gut microbiome, and is strongly associated with lower cardiovascular disease risk.

    People Who Eat Plant Proteins in Part Have Healthier Habits
    Meta-analyses that compared people who eat animal versus plant proteins consistently find that, even after adjusting for other influential factors like socioeconomic class, weight, and exercise habits, those who eat plants tend to live longer, healthier lives. They tend to have less cardiovascular disease and fewer cancer cases, though especially the cancer association tends to drop away once other factors have been controlled for. Despite all that controlling, though, there's still an association with living a longer life with fewer heart problems. There are almost certainly some small factors contributing to the association. People who eat plant proteins may see their doctor more regularly and thus get better preventive care. Maybe they tend to live in quieter, less polluted places.

    Since correlations still exist between eating plant proteins and overall health, even after controlling for other factors, meta-analyses have generally concluded that lifestyle factors alone can't account for the correlation. One such analysis in the Journal of the American Medical Association noted that "Substitution of plant protein for animal protein, especially from processed red meat, may confer a substantial health benefit" and advised that policies promote plant proteins.

    Meat Has More Saturated Fats
    Another reason that steak isn’t great for you: the fat that often accompanies it. Fat is part of why steaks and burgers are delicious—it adds mouthfeel and flavor. But it also tends to clog up your heart. “[With plant proteins] you get less saturated fat and no cholesterol,” Giancoli explains, “so you’re getting that benefit as well.”

    Saturated fats are those that are solid at room temperature and tend to contribute to cardiovascular disease (though not as much as trans fats) because it drives up your total cholesterol levels. That may, in the long run, tip the scales towards the LDL (low density lipid) side, which is what clogs up arteries. Foods like nuts, avocados, and fish have far less saturated fats than red and other dark meats. As such, they are dubbed healthy fats.

    Processed, Red Meat Is Carcinogenic, and Grilled Meat May Be Too
    You probably heard about the massive World Health Organization (WHO) report a few years ago proclaiming that processed, red meats were carcinogenic. Colorectal cancer in particular has been associated with eating red meat, and so have pancreatic and prostate cancer. Processed meats, like bacon and sausage, also contribute to colorectal cancer. Even grilled meat is known to have some carcinogenic compounds in it (those black char marks are where they mostly lie); seared meat has a similar effect.

    In the grand scheme of cancer, meat isn't the biggest player. Estimates by the Global Burden of Disease Project, a subset of the WHO, put the number of annual cancer cases from red meat at 50,000. That's compared to 200,000 from air pollution, 600,000 from alcohol, and one million from tobacco. But it's not nothing.

    If we’re taking an exclusively long-range, zoomed-out, big picture view it’s fairly undeniable that getting your protein from plants would be healthier overall. But dietitians like Giancoli are also adamant about one other important thing: Food should be enjoyable. We shouldn’t spend our lives gorging only on ice cream and pizza, but if you love burgers you should have them. Not every night—just sometimes. The key to a successful diet, as many dietitians will tell you, is balance and moderation. And beans.

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    The OP is stupid and the resulting thread will be entertaining

    Bring in the popcorn
     
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    “Credible”

    Nothing about that is credible.
     
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    I think this thread will be full of reasonable and friendly discussions
     
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    @TidWell do you subscribe to a particular diet?
     
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    Damn. Just threw a brisket on the smoker. Brb going back to throw it out and put a salad on
     
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    a balanced diet is best? who knew!
     
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    Here's Damning Evidence That Animal Protein Is Better Than Plant Protein For Your Physical And Mental Health
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  13. TidWell Banned Banned

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    I did my first brisket on my weber kettle last week. It turned pretty decent, but i didn’t get the bark i was looking for. Need more practice!
     
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    Didn’t read tbh, but would donate protein farts to the face for the cause.
     
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    I'm sure China study believers thought the same thing

    Problem with science is its rife with politics, conflicts of interests, even downright falsification

    Not sure anyone realizes how much bullshit studies out there are pushed by corporate interests that have a particular agenda. Do we remember studies funded by tobacco companies? How about Ancel Keyes 7 countries study now debunked but once considered nutrition gospel?

    It's very easy to cherry pick data and produce a study for whatever narrative youd like to push. Can you replicate it many times over the course of years, with multiple sources agreeing on the same thing, that's where you get closer to what's factual.

    One study will definitely give you things to consider but it will take a lot of evidence to go up against tens of thousands of years of human history and biology.

    All fossil records show that our ancient hunter gatherer counter parts were healthier, had bigger brains and far more dense bone structures.
     
  17. mb23100 Steel Belt

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    Also on a Weber kettle. Apparently there is a stall like pork shoulder. I'm trying it out...
     
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    I had a Tomahawk Steak the other night at a local restaurant and that shit was fucking tasty

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    Both veggies and meats are awesome. No reason to have one over the other.
     
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    I just used salt and pepper for the rub, but i should have sprayed it a few times to help with the bark. When it stalled i wrapped it in unwaxed but her paper. Tender and tasty!
     

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