Has humanity experienced a reset?

[BearGrounds]

Any specific books ?

If you're asking about Graham Hancock books, Magicians of the Gods and The Mars Mystery are the only two I own and have read in their entirety.

Rogan has good podcasts with him on YT. If you want to check out his stuff that's an easy place to begin.

 

[andnowweknow]

Sure, but what evidence suggests those civilizations were advanced? Can you cite specific examples? I don't think finding ruins of old structures made of stone, and the occassional mysterious tool they cant understand the function of, is enough to constitute a probability that there were advanced ancient civilizations.

it really depends how you define advanced, but mostly the quality of some of the architectural work indicates the level of technological advancement (not to mention a lot of the work attributed even to early kingdom dynastic egypt doesn't have the tools necessary in the archeological record to achieve the results we see...some will argue that point, using "lots of time" arguments which are frankly stupid, but another argument).

None of this means they were building skyscrapers or making iphones and using the internet, but if we were to find out that a culture existing 12k+ years ago had the capability to accurately map the world knowing that Antarctica existed (which we did not until the 1800's) or that they were building exceptionally difficult and precise astronomical buildings with stone blocks of 100 ton weights we would probably be forced to revisit the ideas we have about technology and the past.

 

[andnowweknow]

If you're asking about Graham Hancock books, Magicians of the Gods and The Mars Mystery are the only two I own and have read in their entirety.

Rogan has good podcasts with him on YT. If you want to check out his stuff that's an easy place to begin.

while a bit dry not as readable as Fingerprints or Magicians, you should check out Underworld, which is the follow up to Fingerprints of the Gods...about his many years long diving expeditions around the world. You can think about Hancock as you like, but the dude is a straight up real life Indiana Jones and does not write books from some office in a library at a University...he's literally doing the research first hand and visiting and walking the walk doing technical dives in crazy rough ocean environments...

 

[Fawlty]

Finding highly advanced ancient societies is going to keep happening, but you have to lower your expectations of "highly advanced." Gobekli Tepe as you mentioned is a really good example of this. To do that 12kya blows up our understanding of the past, but it's not really that amazing in and of itself. But that's the scale we can expect these discoveries to happen on. Maybe we'll find something that resembles writing in the time of cave paintings, etc. But we're probably not going to find things that amaze us, in the sense that we couldn't imagine doing them.

 

[Why did you]

They seem pretty advanced to me.

The bottom layer doesn't look easy, those stones are massive. According to history this place was at best a Roman backwater.

it appears that whoever built that could do anything with stones, massive blocks,
precission , logistics, infrastructure.. I guess we can just admire how it was done what's the technique and the purpose of all those ancient megalitic sites. Maybe new discoveries help.

a box for bulls, just like that

 

[Da Speeit]

I wonder if ancient chicks gave out ancient iPads.

hahaha omg

 

[BearGrounds]

while a bit dry not as readable as Fingerprints or Magicians, you should check out Underworld, which is the follow up to Fingerprints of the Gods...about his many years long diving expeditions around the world. You can think about Hancock as you like, but the dude is a straight up real life Indiana Jones and does not write books from some office in a library at a University...he's literally doing the research first hand and visiting and walking the walk doing technical dives in crazy rough ocean environments...

Cool, might have to do that. I remember him talking about his Yonaguni dives during a Rogan podcast.

Timestamped below for anyone interested.

 

[Why did you]

 

[facePuncher7]

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"Scyther".

 

[andnowweknow]

Cool, might have to do that. I remember him talking about his Yonaguni dives during a Rogan podcast.

Timestamped below for anyone interested.

When he talked about "swimming against the current in a river" and the currents around Yonaguni being such that it will "rip the regulator out of your mouth" you get the idea of the sort of cajones Graham has.

 

[Gene Tunney]

The quality of ancient buildings is impressive but not surprising. Masonry has historically been a desirable profession. Say for example, instead of surfing the webs, you spent your time designing buildings and temples. You would become experts! What we see with the feats of the ancients is the development of building technique over the course of centuries,plateauing. Theoretically, an ancient civilization could have built houses with plumbing, electricity, and cities with central transportation systems. This is unlikely, but you never know.

 

[Loiosh]

Is that really true ?
So for example skyscrapes are all gone in about what 1000 years if they would be abandoned now ?
Will our todays structures be also in place in such year span of few thousands years from now ?

 

[Loiosh]

within a century the golden gate bridge would fall into the bay. Especially things by the sea get corroded away incredibly fast, especially metals from the ocean moisture in the air.

In 1000 years, It is a 100% chance that every single metal structure that is held up by said metal will be gone in 1000 years without maintenance. Something like the Empire State building, which is largely comprised of Limestone, would be a a giant rubble heap as it would not withstand the weather and earthquakes that inevitably would occur over time. Metal especially just doesn't last unless under the most desiccated of conditions.

They are CONSTANTLY maintaining structures like the Golden Gate Bridge, going so far as to paint it from one side to the other and when complete they do it again just to add a layer to protect from the elements the ocean air brings.

 

[andnowweknow]

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[NHB7]

I think we (humanity) is very likely older than currently recognized and that we accomplished higher feats of technology than currently recognized (eg. Agriculture, megolithic structures etc). I think indeed that there is already mounting evidence of both. But I don't think there was a previous highly advanced race (e.g. Non-animal powered vehicles, super weapons, etc.).

 

[Vil7]

I wonder if ancient chicks gave out ancient iPads.

I think back then they gave out abacuses.

 

[ctrlaltdelete]

we have evidence for 2 huge genetic bottlenecks, where we all descended for one guy, and all descended from one female. they didnt live anywhere near the same time, but the genes from the other males/females didnt survive to present day

Maybe disease knocked out the other male / female genes.

 

[Iroh]

Yes.

 

[I Am Legion]

The question we need to ask ourselves.....if there is a major cleansing of the world. Could we all live without electricity and everyday comforts? Could we survive in a harsher social climate? The positives is the bullshit of work and politics is gone...the stresses of bills and the negative impacts of materialism....gone. I think some of us would still have homes, albeit, it is now more like a shelter from the weather without heat and AC. We may have our clothes...Food is an issue. Clean water can be figured out. Eventually we would have to wipe our asses with leaves. Women would need to use old newspaper for mentstrual issues. I might be ok with it.

 

[BearGrounds]

Couple books for those interested in this topic:

Both explore the possibility of The Great Pyramid being a structure built in order to generate power, which is a theory I find particularly compelling. While the first book focuses on the Pyramid alone, the second book examines it as one part of a larger puzzle involving the Arc of the Covenant, which the authors suggest may have been a power source/component that was removed from the granite box within the King's chamber. Both good reads with a lot of fascinating information, even if you do not agree with their conclusions.

@Davem10