Has Anyone Ever Used This Pankration GNP Technique in the UFC?

[Davemeddlehed]

There are millions of people doing performance art Wushu and the invention of the Chinese military San Shou. There is almost no one doing traditional Kung Fu because it almost doesn't exist anymore.

Traditional Kung Fu was developed in actual fighting tournaments like the UFC and was kept alive when those tournaments were still legal.

Source? Because as recently as 20 something years ago such tournaments were being held in the US.

 

[Darkslide632]

The "hook" is resting on top of the ankle from the outside. There's no reason to assume he's got a hook in, and if he did he'd be much lower with his hips, and not that far across his opponents(the guy on the bottom's) body.

You obviously don't know the statue, then, which makes you seem pretty silly with your "If he did, yadda, yadda, yadda..." bit.

 

[vcmmafan]

Catch wrestling was a European invention.

You mean British.

 

[Darkslide632]

Wiki Gatame u have to have your left arm over Uki's to isolate the arm. Look closely and you'll see he has his left arm between Uki's ribs and right arm grabbing his right hand. That's what makes that lock work and such a smooth transition to Udi Garami. You don't have to let go of Uki's right wrist like you would for Wiki Gatame and risk escape or reversal from someone well trained. In the pictured position move right of of the back and just loop your right hand/arm over and grab your right wrist. Correct me if I'm wrong if that's not a figure 4(Udi Garami) arm lock. Waki Gatame's a great technique for weapon's defense/ disarm because you stay outside a perps center line. My most trusted panic go to in the shit.

I didn't say "from this position" I said " If you had the arm that isolated"... and really, it's not hard to see how easy it would be to switch grips and throw his arm into your armpit - assuming the hook wasn't in, of course.

 

[Davemeddlehed]

You mean British.

Used to be a European invention lol

 

[CFGroup]

I didn't say "from this position" I said " If you had the arm that isolated"... and really, it's not hard to see how easy it would be to switch grips and throw his arm into your armpit - assuming the hook wasn't in, of course.

Shit dog, u train up on Portland? I trained Judo at Willow up in Auburn Than some BJJ Jay Jack before Alexey moved to town and Aikido at Portland Aikido(The chief instructor knows some great Wiki Gatame variations for weapons based application). Tell Travis, Purple Belt @ T1 yo, and to show u that same gripSankyo to Udi Garami lock transition from standing. Haha Let's see if he remembers it from last summer.

 

[Darkslide632]

Shit dog, u train up on Portland? I trained Judo at Willow up in Auburn Than some BJJ Jay Jack before Alexey moved to town and Aikido at Portland Aikido(The chief instructor knows some great Wiki Gatame variations for weapons based application). Tell Travis, Purple Belt @ T1 yo, and to show u that same gripSankyo to Udi Garami lock transition from standing. Haha Let's see if he remembers it from last summer.

I'm a purple belt under Alexey. I would pop in to Ray and Diane's place from time to time. I enjoyed talking Judo with Ray.

 

[Exi]

It looks like it's actually pretty brilliant. I noticed it on multiple ancient art pieces.

The dude's trapped in an armbar from the back. If he tries moving side-to-side, that arms getting snapped or the shoulder is getting ripped out of the socket like in Jones vs Glover. If he tries to flatten out, he's going to get RNCd or mounted or a really bad position. If he stays where he is, he's getting pounded out.

It also allows for full power haymakers.

It reminds me a lot of Fedor's GNP. He used to position his limbs to allow him to rotate his trunk and push off his legs to generate the same power he had while standing up.

Ah, the good old days, when small joint manipulation, punches to the back of the head, and an O-natural dipstick oil check could be your immortalized in stone highlight reel finish.

#prideneverdie

 

[CFGroup]

I'm a purple belt under Alexey. I would pop in to Ray and Diane's place from time to time. I enjoyed talking Judo with Ray.

Super cool! I moved out to the west coast. I really wanted to train with Alexey but I gotta get my hip repaired(Laberal tair) in Sept from too many break falls over the years and helping guys train for testing when I should have been healing up. Ray taught me basic Ne Waza and is a huge influence on my attention to detail after years off. He was a true warrior and insisted on taking Ukemi from me up till six months before he passed RIP! I'm gonna try to track down Ray Harris after I heal up over the winter and get to focus on BJJ again. R u still running a school? It would b great to take some classes when I'm back east.

 

[Coconut Joe]

It looks like it's actually pretty brilliant. I noticed it on multiple ancient art pieces.

The dude's trapped in an armbar from the back. If he tries moving side-to-side, that arms getting snapped or the shoulder is getting ripped out of the socket like in Jones vs Glover. If he tries to flatten out, he's going to get RNCd or mounted or a really bad position. If he stays where he is, he's getting pounded out.

It also allows for full power haymakers.

It reminds me a lot of Fedor's GNP. He used to position his limbs to allow him to rotate his trunk and push off his legs to generate the same power he had while standing up.

The last guy that could pull this shit off "effectively" would have been Lou Thesz. He's dead. Old hookers like Ad Santel or a Farmer Burns would fuck your world up in this position. Frank Gotch vs George Hackenschmidt comes to mind.

 

[binny]

I don't think I've ever not clicked like when someone posts this picture.

 

[biscuitsbrah]

Why don't you try it and tell us how effective it is

 

[Tiger_vs_Mantis]

Source? Because as recently as 20 something years ago such tournaments were being held in the US.

There are literally thousands of sources describing the Chinese Cultural Revolution and how traditional Kung Fu was practically eliminated.

http://www.talkkungfu.co.uk/guides/history_of_kung_fu.html

http://www.tuttlepublishing.com/books-by-country/the-shaolin-grandmasters-text