Media Hardest hitting LW ever?

[mkt]

What does that have to do with him hitting hard?

"JustOnce" was also claiming that Gomi was potentially the LW GOAT. "He was as good as any LW ever." That's what I was responding to. As for hardest puncher at LW, I'm not sure. Guillard, Chandler and a few others are also worth mentioning.

I'd pick Penn over Gomi at any time during their respective primes, and Khabib would certainly thrash him and win via GnP, submission or a dominant UD. I'd pick the current Gaethje and others over him as well. T.S. likes having super specific criteria, though, like "Bushido Gomi," meaning he wasn't prime when Penn beat him 2003 or when Diaz beat him in 2007....and somehow he must not have been prime in Bushido when Marcus Aurélio beat him there....but the rest of the time, he's the all-time GOAT, I tell ya!

 

[EndlessCritic]

Has Poirier been discussed? He has deceptively powerful hands.

 

[LATEXXX COMMANDO]

Gomi was a vicious killer back in the day

Penn had some nasty power too.

Now? Probably Gaethje

 

[avenue94]

Like what? Khabib's the only one who took either of them down instead of engaging in a standup fight. Conor KO'd them standing and Justin meanwhile got KO'd standing. It's not like Justin missed shots, he had all out wars and landed plenty and still couldn't put them away.

Ability to land power. Find opening to land shots. Impose a gameplan. Etc. To use your example, if we just zoom into Cerrone's fights with Conor and Guillard, you would conclude that the former is the harder hitter, despite Guillard being on an entirely different level of hitting power.

Or to have a very extreme answer, Jeremy Stephens at LW was a tremendous puncher despite having very few knockouts because he couldn't leverage his power. Conversely, Conor isn't an exceptional hitter, but he is an exceptionally fast starter and finisher.

Gomi is as washed up as anybody in the history of MMA.

I don't think he's Melvin washed given their records and lifestyles, but that's splitting hairs. Gomi's chin when he was washed is more or less on par with Melvin's when he was in his prime. Not sure what you want to conclude from a shoootout between 2 glass cannons.

 

[Black Paladin]

Justin landed some bombs.

Conor's punches slow and weak according to Khabib

Conor's punches annoyed Khabib--Justin's punches made him pray.

 

[JohnMandick]

What's your point?

Bisping has more KO/TKOs on his record than Chuck Liddell does. I don't think anybody with a brain would use that as an argument for Bisping hitting harder.

Justin has a lot of leg kick finishes from WSOF as well, he only really has 2 one punch KOs. Gomi has plenty.

Good point.

 

[markg171]

Justin is far away from the hardest puncher at LW, its just a narrative the UFC used to sell the Kabeb fight better and now one the religious trolljobs love to jump on to praise their braddas chin.

Yeah the guy's had all out wars with half of his opponents. If he hit so impossibly hard, then how come he didn't put them away (or sooner than he did)? He hit them plenty and they ate plenty of shots.

Like with someone like Guillard, it's pretty easy to see why he didn't as his skill level didn't really match his power and so he actually missed shots or was just safely outstruck. His power wasn't failing him, his skills were.

Gaethje meanwhile doesn't have that problem, yet so many of his opponents have been able to withstand it. Because he hits hard sure, but as others have said he's actually a volume striker who simply wears his opponents down.

Ability to land power. Find opening to land shots. Impose a gameplan. Etc. To use your example, if we just zoom into Cerrone's fights with Conor and Guillard, you would conclude that the former is the harder hitter, despite Guillard being on an entirely different level of hitting power.

But Justin did hit his opponents. Plenty of times. They were all out wars. It's not like people are Jon Jonesing him and just potshotting him safely from a distance to avoid his power.

Like there couldn't possibly be a better situation for the "hardest puncher in LW history" to win those types of fights, or win them sooner, than when he's got his opponents are just slinging punches with him. If he's not KOing these opponents, or takes awhile to do so, then it's very hard for me to call him the hardest puncher ever.

A hard puncher sure, but clearly not the hardest ever.

 

[markg171]

I'm in no way saying he's the hardest hitter ever, but I'm kinda surprised after 7 pages nobody's put forward Eddie Alvarez to be at least be among the harder hitters in LW history. The guy's won most of his fights by KO, including against some of LWs greats and some of the fighter's mentioned here, as well as hurt plenty of fighters he didn't ultimately KO.

He clearly packs a punch, yet nobody's even mentioned him yet.

 

[OldBoy91]

The hardest punchers don't drown and break people in all out wars, like Gaethje does.

They put them spark out with one punch like prime Gomi and Melvin.

 

[OverhandRightKayo]

I'm going with the highlight, Justin "TNT" Gaethje.

Hardest kicker and puncher at LW ever. One punch KO power, and crippling kicks.

Khabib has fought and taken shots from Dustin, Gaethje, Conor, Barboza, RDA and he said Justin hits the hardest by far and also said Conor punches were slow and weak.

https://www.givemesport.com/1791189...hardesthitting-fighter-he-faced-in-his-career

Speaking on Mike Tyson’s podcast, Nurmagomedov said: “This guy [Justin Gaethje] hit like a truck, you know. Nobody hit me harder than Justin Gaethje. His kick, his punch, his left hook, right hook, right uppercut.

Agreed

 

[MCS]

Fireball Kid, Gomi. High as a kite Nick didn't like those hadoukens.

 

[richardjohnson]

Conrats - “No one can take that nuclear left hand”

Old man in the bar - “Hold my dentures”

 

[KAZSoliloquy]

jens pulver is up there. dude slept a ton of people

 

[OldBoy91]

jens pulver is up there. dude slept a ton of people

Prime Jens was a beast! Crazy he went on to fight at 135 too, I know lightweights were generally smaller back then, but Jens was even on the smaller size for those days.

 

[KAZSoliloquy]

Prime Jens was a beast! Crazy he went on to fight at 135 too, I know lightweights were generally smaller back then, but Jens was even on the smaller size for those days.

for sure. and he had a bunch of one-punch KO’s against these guys. dude could crack

 

[MMAATHLETE]

Honorable mention to Gomi

I was thinking of saying gomi also

 

[MMAATHLETE]

Justin broked Tony

You got the gif where he landed the even hard shot. That was just his jab

 

[Willek]

Sam Stout had Hands of Stone FFS.

 

[Azazyah]

Some say he's still rocked to this day.

 

[Dr. Rose]

Diego never had a chance

so true, and that was when Diego was a pretty durable fighter