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International Hamas launches surprise attack on Israel; Israel has declared a state of war.

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I think this is according to forum rules if i go according to stuff in ukr thread, theres no blood no heavy violence,

its not pretty to look at but not ukr war torture vids level either

Buut remove if against rules



Hamas are subhuman savages. I can't imagine what those female prisoners are experiencing. I hope the Israeli response is swift and brutal.
 
This has nothing to with what I argued against...
YOU claimed the children living there is soldiers..
Now you suddenly call them victims..
You are all over the place.

I agree though... The children are victims.
And no, children that live in a certain area should not be called child soldiers, like you call them.

Good. We agree.

Israeli children are victims of their own government who used them as child soldiers and pioneers to steal land and live in a warzone.
 
Sad whenever there is loss of life. I’m curious as to why (if we have the info correct) the Israeli defence system didn’t seem to protect against the missile attack?
 
An Israeli man tells Israeli public radio that his family is missing and his wife’s phone is geolocated in Khan Yunis, a city in the Gaza Strip.

The report comes amid claims by Hamas that it is holding hostage a number of Israelis.”


At least 160 Palestinians have been killed, medical sources in Gaza told Al Jazeera.

There are over 1,000 people wounded, Al Jazeera reported.”

Guardian.com
 
Sad whenever there is loss of life. I’m curious as to why (if we have the info correct) the Israeli defence system didn’t seem to protect against the missile attack?
The iron dome never had a 100 % success rate and if Hamas really fired 5000 missiles or something my guess is like a thousand would have probably hit targets.
 
Israeli children are victims of their own government who used them as child soldiers and pioneers to steal land and live in a warzone.

Does these kids have weapons and are out on the front line fighting?
Or are they simply children living with their parents?
Once again you make children into acceptable military targets... by claiming they are soldiers...

Shame on you.
 
Does these kids have weapons and are out on the front line fighting?
Or are they simply children living with their parents?
Once again you make children into acceptable military targets... by claiming they are soldiers...

Shame on you.

Children are always the targets of war. Never not been the case. The USA is the only country ever to have the capacity to not kill children in war and yet we kill them by the hundreds of thousands. It is preposterous to think it isn't going to happen. If you love your kids, don't live there.
 
I wish I knew enough history and background to make sound conclusions based on the two prevailing and competing opions that Israel is :
A: Running a defacto apartheid state on the Palestinian people
B: Simply defending its country from hostile neighbors that want to see Israel destroyed

Whether it's one or the other or a much more nuanced situation, I'm not sure. What I am sure of is that some of the video coming out of the region is horrific and I wish I didn't watch some of it.

It's more like A and B feed off each other in a symbiotic perpetual engine of suffering.

Zionists and anti-semites need the conflict to ever keep going so they can galvanize people against the enemy and keep power at home.
 
The entire region needs to be cleared of both sides.

Let Christian's settle there. They've been peaceful as of lately.
 
Hamas are subhuman savages. I can't imagine what those female prisoners are experiencing. I hope the Israeli response is swift and brutal.

saw video of a woman being man handled and thrown around. She had obviously shat her pants. Had blood all over her face and clothes.

Don’t think I’ll be going in Twitter rest of the day
 
So the bully got punched in the mouth. Interesting. Won't end well for Palestine, but either this or do nothing and continue to get spit on by the entire world forever. 0.01% is still a chance.
 
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I wonder if right wingers will change their tune on US sending money to foreign governments to fight wars…..
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Possible the missiles were a diversion from people flying errr parasailing across territorial lines.

Anyhow, Israel should be able to use this to continue to self-defend themselves even more territory.
 

Seems like Israel isn't going to be as courteous about bombing Gaza (Duh)
(in reference to the "without warning" part, this is what they mean:

Bad ending for Palestine, me thinks. Gloves coming off and what not.
Not in the least because the truly random killing of civilians in their home is seemingly making a bit of an impact on public opinion.
 
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