Suck it bitches
Should be post #1 in the Fuck around find out thread
Let's consider if the Oct 7th counter offensive hadn't happened...
Palestinians would still be getting oppressed
Palestinians would still be getting shot, bombed and killed and their infrastructure being compromised
The Jews would still be trying to ethnically cleanse Gaza and the West Bankand pursuing the goal of a Greater Israel
Normalisation with Saudi may have happened.
Israel's standing in the world would be unchanged from what it was previously.
Since Oct 7th, all the above has STILL happened but the IDF has been exposed as being a useless fighting force, lost thousands of terrorists and had tens of thousands crippled permanently, lost its standing across the world in terms of geopolitics and popular support, normalisation is dead unless the Pali's get a state and the Iranians are far closer to nuclear deterrence than ever before (and the Saudi's will follow suit if Iran get's one).
Hamas have been shown to be hero's (and NOT terrorists) and the Israeli hasbara re: merciless savages has been exposed by their own prisoners of war.
The "FO" part has been very successful for Hamas tbh.