International Hamas launches surprise attack on Israel; Israel has declared a state of war. Vol. II

[MicroBrew]

Exclusive: House Republicans Introduce ‘GAZA Act’ to Stop Biden from Importing Palestinians to U.S

The bill, exclusively shared with Breitbart News ahead of its introduction, is titled the “Guaranteeing Aggressors Zero Admission Act” or the GAZA Act. The legislation would prevent Biden’s administration from issuing visas to those with Palestinian Authority passports.

“Following the horrific attack by Iranian-backed Hamas terrorists on innocent Israeli civilians, the last thing America ought to do is trust identity documents issued by the radicals that oversee these territories,” Tiffany said in a statement. “We need to put our security at home first and that starts by closing the door to bad actors who might be seeking to enter our country.”

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/...top-biden-from-importing-palestinians-to-u-s/
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I remember reading how it was terrible some countries, including the US, denied entry to Jews escaping the Nazis.
Many Palestinians are also escaping a terrible situation, especially those in the Gaza strip.
So these Republican reps want to ban anyone with a Palestinian Authority passport even though the P.A. is not Hamas and infact are rivals.

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Re. on nations that helped Hamas.

The GOP reps says "Iranian-backed Hamas" but conveniently leave out that Qatar also backs Hamas. The former head of Hamas - Khaled Mashal - lives in Qatar. Mashal recently called on all Muslims for a "day of rage". Turkey also backed Hamas.

Qatar is a US ally, and home to a massive US and allied military presence, including the forward HQ of CENTCOM. Despite Qatar using indentured servitude (slavery) to build the infrastructure for the World Cup, and hundreds of poor Asian workers dying, Elon Musk, Jared Kushner and Ilhan Omar attended the Soccer World Cup in Qatar. Jared is cosy with the Qatari royals.

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GOP reps introduce bill to stem flow of Palestinians into US amid Israel-Hamas conflict

https://thehill.com/homenews/house/4256094-ogles-tiffany-bill-palestinians-us-war-israel-hamas/

Rep. Tiffany says the US can not let the Biden admin to bring in unvetted Palestinians. Why would the Palestinians coming in be unvetted? They would get questioned at customs and no doubt also have background checks done by Federal agencies.

They (the GOP reps) say the Bill would prevent DHS from using its "parole pipeline" which is a special US gov. program that allowed some groups to skip the green card line. If you are a refugee trying to enter the US it's not practical to wait for years outside the US.

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There is also this recent article from the Times of Israel.

For years, Netanyahu propped up Hamas. Now it’s blown up in our faces
https://www.timesofisrael.com/for-years-netanyahu-propped-up-hamas-now-its-blown-up-in-our-faces/

For years, the various governments led by Benjamin Netanyahu took an approach that divided power between the Gaza Strip and the West Bank — bringing Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas to his knees while making moves that propped up the Hamas terror group.

The idea was to prevent Abbas — or anyone else in the Palestinian Authority’s West Bank government — from advancing toward the establishment of a Palestinian state.

Thus, amid this bid to impair Abbas, Hamas was upgraded from a mere terror group to an organization with which Israel held indirect negotiations via Egypt, and one that was allowed to receive infusions of cash from abroad.

 

[HereticBD]

Exclusive: House Republicans Introduce ‘GAZA Act’ to Stop Biden from Importing Palestinians to U.S

The bill, exclusively shared with Breitbart News ahead of its introduction, is titled the “Guaranteeing Aggressors Zero Admission Act” or the GAZA Act. The legislation would prevent Biden’s administration from issuing visas to those with Palestinian Authority passports.

“Following the horrific attack by Iranian-backed Hamas terrorists on innocent Israeli civilians, the last thing America ought to do is trust identity documents issued by the radicals that oversee these territories,” Tiffany said in a statement. “We need to put our security at home first and that starts by closing the door to bad actors who might be seeking to enter our country.”

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/...top-biden-from-importing-palestinians-to-u-s/
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I remember reading how it was terrible some countries, including the US, denied entry to Jews escaping the Nazis.
Many Palestinians are also escaping a terrible situation, especially those in the Gaza strip.
So these Republican reps want to ban anyone with a Palestinian Authority passport even though the P.A. is not Hamas and infact are rivals.

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Re. on nations that helped Hamas.

The GOP reps says "Iranian-backed Hamas" but conveniently leave out that Qatar also backs Hamas. The former head of Hamas - Khaled Mashal - lives in Qatar. Mashal recently called on all Muslims for a "day of rage". Turkey also backed Hamas.

Qatar is a US ally, and home to a massive US and allied military presence, including the forward HQ of CENTCOM. Despite Qatar using indentured servitude (slavery) to build the infrastructure for the World Cup, and hundreds of poor Asian workers dying, Elon Musk, Jared Kushner and Ilhan Omar attended the Soccer World Cup in Qatar. Jared is cosy with the Qatari royals.

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GOP reps introduce bill to stem flow of Palestinians into US amid Israel-Hamas conflict

https://thehill.com/homenews/house/4256094-ogles-tiffany-bill-palestinians-us-war-israel-hamas/

Rep. Tiffany says the US can not let the Biden admin to bring in unvetted Palestinians. Why would the Palestinians coming in be unvetted? They would get questioned at customs and no doubt also have background checks done by Federal agencies.

They (the GOP reps) say the Bill would prevent DHS from using its "parole pipeline" which is a special US gov. program that allowed some groups to skip the green card line. If you are a refugee trying to enter the US it's not practical to wait for years outside the US.

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There is also this recent article from the Times of Israel.

For years, Netanyahu propped up Hamas. Now it’s blown up in our faces
https://www.timesofisrael.com/for-years-netanyahu-propped-up-hamas-now-its-blown-up-in-our-faces/

For years, the various governments led by Benjamin Netanyahu took an approach that divided power between the Gaza Strip and the West Bank — bringing Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas to his knees while making moves that propped up the Hamas terror group.

The idea was to prevent Abbas — or anyone else in the Palestinian Authority’s West Bank government — from advancing toward the establishment of a Palestinian state.

Thus, amid this bid to impair Abbas, Hamas was upgraded from a mere terror group to an organization with which Israel held indirect negotiations via Egypt, and one that was allowed to receive infusions of cash from abroad.

Yeah, what could be the harm in letting more and more totally not Hamas supporting Palestinians in the country, that could most recently be seen celebrating a Hamas terrorist attack, while chanting "Gas the Jews!".

Yeah, bring more of them into America. Seems smart.

 

[ROcknrollracing]

I may be alone here but this seems like its dangerously close to being the final battle.....the big one......with the way all of this is shaping up right now. Could be wrong though.

 

[PhitePhan]

Lol damned if you damned if you don't with you people.
Israel isolates Gaza and prevents the transfer of goods because it will bolster HAMAS - how the hell do they dare to commit such war crimes, an illegal blockade!
Israel transfers money and goods - Israel supports HAMAS and is to blame for its terrorism.
Again and again the Palestinians in all these narrations are agent-less pawns incapable of sovereign thoughts or actions.

Israel’s support of Hamas was historically to create infighting within Palestine,
you know that, right?

According to The Interceptor, ” Brig. Gen. Yitzhak Segev, who was the Israeli military governor in Gaza in the early 1980s. Segev later told a New York Times reporter that he had helped finance the Palestinian Islamist movement as a “counterweight” to the secularists and leftists of the Palestine Liberation Organization and the Fatah party, led by Yasser Arafat (who himself referred to Hamas as “a creature of Israel.”).”

https://blogs.timesofisrael.com/hamas-israels-own-creation/

I’ve asked this question before and nobody has answered, but do you think the average Palestinian knew that Israel was propping up Hamas at its inception, and also over the years?

 

[Rob Battisti]

Yeah, what could be the harm in letting more and more totally not Hamas supporting Palestinians in the country, that could most recently be seen celebrating a Hamas terrorist attack, while chanting "Gas the Jews!".

Yeah, bring more of them into America. Seems smart.

I’d be okay with allowing only the women and children in. No fighting aged males.

At this point, can’t we just create a new country in the middle of nowhere for them?

 

[7even]

The terrorist group that butchers the elderly in their homes and massacres kids would do such a SM thing for media fodder? Who would have thought…

I feel like that poster desperately wants Israel to directly kill Gaza civilians so he can paint Israel as the bad guys. He doesn’t give a fuck about Palestinians.

 

[Rob Battisti]

Israel’s support of Hamas was historically to create infighting within Palestine,
you know that, right?

According to The Interceptor, ” Brig. Gen. Yitzhak Segev, who was the Israeli military governor in Gaza in the early 1980s. Segev later told a New York Times reporter that he had helped finance the Palestinian Islamist movement as a “counterweight” to the secularists and leftists of the Palestine Liberation Organization and the Fatah party, led by Yasser Arafat (who himself referred to Hamas as “a creature of Israel.”).”

https://blogs.timesofisrael.com/hamas-israels-own-creation/

I’ve asked this question before and nobody has answered, but do you think the average Palestinian knew that Israel was propping up Hamas at its inception, and also over the years?

Tale as old as time.

We propped up OBL.

Russia propped up Ukraine.

England propped up the colonies.

Once friends now enemies.

What’s the point?

 

[PhitePhan]

Hamas exists because of Israel's actions you dumb fuck. Their prime minister is on record saying their stated goal is to bolster Hamas and prevent the Palestinians from having a state. This is your response? You cant be this stupid. You people will say the dumbest shit to support human atrocities. By all means keep this up. From now on I expect you to support war crimes in every other conflict.

Bibi is on record saying that? Do you have a source?

 

[sickc0d3r]

It's already been prepped by some religions if aliens are discovered

https://www.thecatholicthing.org/2023/07/06/pope-francis-on-aliens/
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-pope-extraterrestrials-idINL146364620080514

Pope already said he'd baptise any aliens who asked heh. So I wouldn't hold your breath on the discovery of aliens being a death knell for religion heh.

They'll find a way

And the aliens’ prime directive prevents them from telling the Pope what’s up. We have no chance to evolve before it’s time, smh.

 

[irish_thug]

Updates on how the IDF treats those men and any others will be illuminating

*edit*
Props to the mods on that whopper of a first thread, @Strychnine @Sinister @LMP @panamaican @irish_thug and anyone else I missed

It's nice to see things settled down a bit.

 

[Deleted member 267581]

No fella, just come clean. Israel is the only non Muslim country surrounded by enemies that was brutally attacked in one of the worst ways imaginable by an inhuman terrorist group. This terrorist group was democratically elected by the people of Palestine. Palestine engaged in war and Israel informed the civilians who could be (or claim innocent) to evacuate. Cutting off supplies to an enemy of war is step 1 in every playbook.

Perhaps you shouldn’t cry foul after targeting and massacring women, elderly and children and parading their bodies around. It’s not a hard concept. Commit the most horrific acts in history and expect basic principles of the war you started.

Rest assured if Palestine had the competence or capabilities they would just bomb everywhere and everybody to eradicate all Israelis. This is something their leadership has demanded and said on record for years.

Now go back to hating whatever country you are in and spewing propaganda.

they were elected in 2006 and haven’t had a free election since and they received 58% of the vote.

I’ve said this before, how would you feel if wyou were punished because the left voted for biden?

 

[Deleted member 267581]

It doesn't matter who is to blame. The reality is, Hamas terrorists are sheltered by civilians in Gaza. By force or voluntarily, and Israel is smoking them out by very ruthless means. It's not the responsibility of the Israelis to look after their enemy's civilians in a war.

You're not gonna get far with the whole "you support murdering my team!" emotional bullshit with me. It's war. They're killing each other. There is no moral high ground on either side. Just war, in which one nation will defeat the other. You're just upset that Palestine is on the wrong end of it, and that their "glorious" and "brave" attack a few days ago, will likely lead to their doom. Actions have consequences. You don't get to cry for mercy, after you willingly slaughtered 100's of innocent people, who happen to belong to a nation that can obliterate you.

I guess the same game is being played. You don’t get mercy for Jewish people since they are supporting a murderous Israeli state.

 

[PhitePhan]

so now israelis are targeting and killing the fleeing civilians that they ordered to evacuate on the safe route :

https://www.bbc.com/news/live/world-middle-east-67108364

how are the zionist propagandists here will turn this one up ? it's Hamas fault that israel targets the fleeing civilians that it ordered to flee ? or just handwave it cause israel can't be wrong

The narrative is kind of perfect from a psychopathic point of view, literally any war crime imaginable is somehow justified because “Hamas is using human shields, we had no choice.”

The non-psychopath might think, “These are sick fuckers, they don’t care about the lives of children, but we do…” Instead, all we hear is, “welp, we gotta bomb the schools and hospitals because Hamas is using human shields!”

Sometimes the mask slips a bit, and they’ll come right out and equate Palestinians (including children) to animals who would have turned bad when they grew up anyways.

 

[Deleted member 267581]

No not really.
One group (Nazis) brought up their children to hate, attack, and kill Jews. Whereas the Israelis are completely surrounded by nations and the chief of which has stated that they want to purge every Israelite off the face of the Earth.

One group is looking to kill and the other is just looking to exist by defending itself.

Here’s the Israeli forces using Palestinian children as human shields


http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/7960824.stm

 

[dannialn]

Israel’s support of Hamas was historically to create infighting within Palestine,
you know that, right?

According to The Interceptor, ” Brig. Gen. Yitzhak Segev, who was the Israeli military governor in Gaza in the early 1980s. Segev later told a New York Times reporter that he had helped finance the Palestinian Islamist movement as a “counterweight” to the secularists and leftists of the Palestine Liberation Organization and the Fatah party, led by Yasser Arafat (who himself referred to Hamas as “a creature of Israel.”).

I’ve asked this question before and nobody has answered, but do you think the average Palestinian knew that Israel was propping up Hamas at its inception, and also over the years?

That's bollox imo, yeah Israel financed HAMAS as a kinda 'divide and concure' strategy, but to present Arafat as a 'leftist'? Lol
Anyway, to your question, it doesn't matter really. Governments do this kind of shit all the time, the EU invests millions in Israeli left wing political parties, Russia tried to invest all its resources to put a puppet government in Ukraine etc
I refuse to accept that the Palestinians are blameless puppies, only dancing to the tunes of others, and if it wasn't hamas some other radical silamic terror entity would appear, like it happened with Hezbollah and Black September in Jordan.

 

[Scerpi]

I feel like that poster desperately wants Israel to directly kill Gaza civilians so he can paint Israel as the bad guys. He doesn’t give a fuck about Palestinians.

Neither does Hamas

 

[Gutter Chris]

I’d be okay with allowing only the women and children in. No fighting aged males.

At this point, can’t we just create a new country in the middle of nowhere for them?

I mean we probably could create them a country somewhere....but who's going to give them the land and want them as neighbors...also I don't think they want to live somewhere else they want to live there. In theory create a real country called Palestine somewhere not next door to Israel sounds like a great plan but I don't see them or anyone else going for that. Also is there anywhere on earth someone doesn't already live ? Won't it just be the Palestinians against whoever we put them on top of ?

 

[PhitePhan]

Tale as old as time.

We propped up OBL.

Russia propped up Ukraine.

England propped up the colonies.

Once friends now enemies.

What’s the point?

Maybe you can answer, do you think the average Palestinian knew that Israel was propping up Hamas at its inception, and also over the years?

The point is the Palestinian people ARE largely innocent in all of this, and that Israel has played a huge part in creating and perpetuating Hamas and their control, for which the average Palestinian suffers. As such, rhetoric about how the average Palestinian is to blame (as written by the poster I responded to) is bunk.

And you handwave such deceptive behaviors (funding terrorism for political gains), it reminds me of the cliche stages of truth… are we at the stage where you’re a conspiracy loon for bringing it up, or are we now at the stage where we pretend that everybody already knew this and it’s par for the course?

 

[Voodoo_Child906]

Israel commits terror acts ok the regular but is a government funded by the US and EU. They are literally held to no standard at all

People here don't (want to) understand the disparity between the situation of the palestinians and the israelis. the former are so deprived of political power and left to die in general indifference their only option is to back whoever can make the most noise for them on a global stage - sadly at this point it is hamas. But Hamas is the mirror of the Israeli government and actions

if you think this means they support their actions of violence and celebrate the killings of innocent israelis, then you are "too far gone"

I know you don't support them, but you should be extremely angry with Hamas for these latest deaths as this is what they expected to, and I believe, what they wanted to happen. They made their attack on civilians, women and children so heinous and personal that Bibi didn't have a choice but to engage in a terrible offensive which will include a ground battle inside of Gaza. The Palestinian people, are just pawns and easily expendable to Hamas and Israel.

 

[Deleted member 592822]

I know you don't support them, but you should be extremely angry with Hamas for these latest deaths as this is what they expected to, and I believe, what they wanted to happen. They made their attack on civilians, women and children so heinous and personal that Bibi didn't have a choice but to engage in a terrible offensive which will include a ground battle inside of Gaza. The Palestinian people, are just pawns and easily expendable to Hamas and Israel.

I am angry with the ones who have cultivated every cause and done every act possible to create Hamas as a consequence . Which is way more logical and is the only way to end the spiral. As you should to.