International Hamas launches surprise attack on Israel; Israel has declared a state of war. Vol. II

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I’m not sure the military prowess of Hamas and hezzbollah, but I don’t think it matters. Hopefully military aid is sent to Israel to help them defend against both.

I got a feeling Israel will be alright

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But yes, let's hope they get even more military equipment so they can defend themselves as they begin their ground invasion of a country that's miserably poor and less well-equipped than them.

Israel is real good at "defending themselves"

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I got a feeling Israel will be alright

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But yes, let's hope they get even more military equipment so they can defend themselves as they begin their ground invasion of Gaza.
I doubt all that equipment is for Palestine, but rather - Jordan, Iran, Lebanon, Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Turkey, etc. Just having it and the US backing serves as a deterrence for state-based violence.
Gaza has tanks?
West Bank - Palestinian National Authority
 
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I'm surprised they took any prisons.
Perhaps. But I won’t be too surprised if a prisoner like that has an unfortunate accidental fall on the way to his cell and suffers 27 broken bones, loss of teeth, two black eyes and severe swelling in the groin area.
 
I'm surprised they took any prisons.

Perhaps. But I won’t be too surprised if a prisoner like that has an unfortunate accidental fall on the way to his cell and suffers 27 broken bones, loss of teeth, two black eyes and severe swelling in the groin area.
Updates on how the IDF treats those men and any others will be illuminating

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Props to the mods on that whopper of a first thread, @Strychnine @Sinister @LMP @panamaican @irish_thug and anyone else I missed
 
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General question. I understand Gaza isn’t completely landlocked. I understand it shares a border with Egypt as well.

1. does the Gaza encasement wall also shut off the Egyptian Border?
2. How are arms smuggled in?

1. Israel blockades two land sides and sea while Egypt blocks off the last land side.
2. A lot of the weapons are smuggled through tunnels as well as the sea. There are multiple tunnels at any one point and most of them are used to smuggle regular goods but also weapons, rockets, explosives, etc. It has been a never ending battle of whack a mole by the Israelis who blow them up and flood them as they find them.
 
When you slaughter 200 people at a concert that is there to benefit YOU, then there's probably going to be actions taken.

Why won't the rest of the Muslim world bring in power production to help their Muslim brothers and sisters?
Thanks Strych for getting back on that. We already discussed the blockade and how the idf attacks anyone bringing humanitarian aid to their prisoners, so we need to talk about:
"When you slaughter 200 people at a concert that is there to benefit YOU, then there's probably going to be actions taken."
So far, the idf's story is the narrative. That alone is scary as shit. We also have israel bots all over the internet posting crazy stories that are absolutely horrible, but never verified, and the accounts here who seem to get all their information from these bot feeds, post it here like it's verified truth asnd then run with it for pages without ever even thinking.

But I haven't answered to your overall point. If it were myself or any actually sane people making decisions over there, a war of aggression would not even be a thought. And considering we are talking about a place the size of Mobile, Alabama, I am pretty sure the continuous bombing campaigns are about the furthest thing necessary, especially due to the fact that israel has these people caged in the largest concentration camp on Earth.

What should have been done and what always should be done when crimes come, imo, is to follow the law. There are laws for murder and rape... even in israel, yes? The perpetrators needed to be identified and held responsible for their crimes --if and only if-- they are found guilty after a fair trial. Which of course is way different than the idf telling the world to just trust them again or effectively trying a couple million people on twitter for the crimes of a few.

Yeah, not a popular choice... I mean we're dealing with terrorists who want to wipe us off the map, right? That is what the idf stands by and uses as a justification for their war crimes every time and it's all bullshit every time.

There is this concept that international law looks at what we cal proportionality.
Israel/Gaza, Operation Cast Lead (Part I, Paras. 120-126, 230-232)
Israel, The Targeted Killings Case (Paras. 40-46)
Israel, Human Rights Committee’s Report on Beit Hanoun (Paras. 38-42)
https://casebook.icrc.org/a_to_z/glossary/proportionality

https://lieber.westpoint.edu/proportionality-international-humanitarian-law-principle-rule/

With that said, I would love to know if you personally or any of the accounts conflating hamas with the Palestinian people, whose blood is surely boiling, can tell me what Mista'arvim means without a search engine. And then implore everyone reading along who cannot, to search it immediately.

And then, if so inclined, to take just a quick little trip with me after down a little rabbit hole, and search:
  • Sayeret Shaked
  • Sayeret Shimshon
  • Rimon
  • Sayeret Duvdevan
  • Yamas
  • Gideonim
  • Hermesh
That's it for now. I honestly hope there wasn't anything close to a rules violation there. I also hope for a better understanding for all of us. The world is watching us now. This isn't about just the Palestinian struggle anymore, as it has become more about us, the international community, and what if anything will finally be done to take care of the insanity that is the Netanyahu regime occupying Palestine.

All the best, good sir.
 
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