Had a waiter confront me outside over a tip

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KONG-D'SNT-TAP said:
You really have no idea what you're talking about man. Many cities you can make 6 figures or close to it.

I bartended through college and even after in NJ, NYC, the jersey shore. I made Wel over 100k a year bartending in busy spots.
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If you read the thread you'd see that I've acknowledged this lol

Everyone just calm down for the night, we will carry on in the am once I get to my desk.
 
Pwent said:
tbh the 4 hour thing is the only reason i side with the server

he took a table in the servers section for 4 hours that couldve served 5+ groups that actually tip. the server probably had his shift end too, but stuck around until they left
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Im legit baffled by this concept.
I was born in the states, but ive lived most of my life outside of it, so I just cant fully wrap my mind around this concept.
Took a table in the "server's" section?!? He is a server at a restaurant. His job is to serve. How does he own a section? Crazy how the restaurant industry got an entire country to sign off on such a stupid system
 
Nice gimmick. Wait staff who feel entitled to tips are loser scum for sure
 
Are Americans aware that their tipping culture is ridiculous, stupid and backward? (Or not).
 
SmilinDesperado said:
Im legit baffled by this concept.
I was born in the states, but ive lived most of my life outside of it, so I just cant fully wrap my around this concept.
Took a table in the "server's" section?!? He is a server at a restaurant. His job is to serve. How does he own a section? Crazy how the restaurant industry got an entire country to sign off on such a stupid system
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And now they apparently are allowed to spit in your food and assault you because they are upset with the checks their boss signs.

You should read the servant Gumby's posts just on this page, and he has the audacity to call me a pos? Lmao
 
Katsumi Yamada said:
Are Americans aware that their tipping culture is ridiculous, stupid and backward? (Or not).
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Some are, most aren't.

A lot of establishments are starting to pay servers more tho, or include a tip % in your bill, but a lot of times they don't even tell ppl a % is added and ppl will give another 20%

Most Americans are shills tho, look who we have as president lmao
 
ISIS in blackface said:
If you read the thread you'd see that I've acknowledged this lol

Everyone just calm down for the night, we will carry on in the am once I get to my desk.
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Dude just stop being a cheap ass. If the guy sucked that's one thing but you seem like the kinda guy who tips shitty even in nice restaurants
 
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KONG-D'SNT-TAP said:
Dude just stop being a cheap ass. If the guy sucked that's one thing but you seem like the kinda guy who tips shitty even in nice restaurants
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It depends how I'm feeling, I'd say I only tip under 15% about 15% of the time I go out.
 
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ISIS in blackface said:
Went to a restaurant with a few of my friends last night, just to grab a few drinks and appetizers, a place called BJ's.

We end up staying for about 4 hours, from about 6-10, and for the 3 of us our total ended up being almost $200 (mainly alcohol).

We usually try and go out once a month and every month it's someone else's turn to cover the bill, and this time it was my turn.

So, figuring that even tho it was $200, I figured it's not that fucking hard to bring out 3 damn drinks at a time and we only had 2 small appetizers. I only had $5 cash on me and decided that would suffice considering it was just mainly alcohol purchased.

So after I pay with my card, I leave the $5 on the table, we walk out and sit on the bench while my friends smokes a cigarette and we continue to catch up. The waiter comes out side a minute later in a frenzy, screaming about this and that and how I'm a cheap fuck and how I shouldn't go out to eat if I can't afford to tip and shoves me to the ground.

He ends up saying "$5 on a $200 bill is unacceptable and I should go fuck myself", and then he goes back inside. My friends ask if $5 is really all I left? And I said yes, and they said why didn't you leave a tip on the receipt with your card? So I guess they took his side in the matter and they talked me out of going inside the restaurant and complaining.

How much do you goes tip for drinks? Was I in the wrong?


Cliffs : Went out with friends
Drank a lot
Tipped $5 on $200 bill because mainly alcohol
Waiter tries to fight me outside
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The waiter is a dipshit. You are a retard. The beginning of a beautiful friendship?
 
ISIS in blackface said:
I guess I"ll have a talk with them, they're older ladies tho, not exactly spry lol
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I'm not even talking physical. Heck, my mother is 74 and if some dude came at me talking trash while she was with me he would get it.
 
blaseblah said:
I'm not even talking physical. Heck, my mother is 74 and if some dude came at me talking trash while she was with me he would get it.
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Oh lol, I thought you wanted them to taser him or something.

They were kind of in shock mostly I guess, maybe I won't see them again, idk, those two have put up with a lot of my bs and at the end of the day it was just a push
 
What's hilarious is that servers justify giving people of certain groups inferior service because said groups are stereotyped as not tipping well. Why should we give into their demands of respect when they don't even respect the patrons of their restaurant? As Breakitdown said, why does it fall to the consumer to subsidize the wages of these waiters? If you don't feel like you're being paid fairly, speak to your employer or get another job. As far as tipping, I'm usually pretty generous (35% - 40%) but I will never support the act of treating someone poorly based purely off of preconceived notions.

Gruesome practice all around.
 
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I am not from US, but here the tipping system is somewhat borrowed from the americans. You tip the pizza delivery guy, the waitress, the waiter.
Usually is 10-15%. Some go 20%, some just round up the sum.

Yes, I tip, but I do not understand the tipping system.
Based on what argument are you obliged to tip?

The waiter/waitress has a shitty salary?
Ok, but this is the owner's fault, not the customer's. Or the state, for the bigger taxes.

They work hard?
Ok, but so do the construction workers or mine workers or people who work in agriculture. Or janitors. Or many other persons with shitty salaries.

Do you pay on the quality of the work?
Ok, but it is a big difference between "she brought us 3 beers and then the check" and "she brought us drinks, food, she changed the ashtray, she brought some other things when asked". So, you tip someone for bringing you two beers, but you do not tip the person at the supermarkets who scans tens of products for you and gives you the bill.

Instead of the customer doing math in his head (I know, not complicated), why doesn't the owner offer decent salaries and boost the prices?
Something like "YOU DO NOT NEED TO TIP HERE, THE TIPS ARE INCLUDED IN THE PRICES AND ALL THE STAFF HAS A DECENT FUCKING SALARY"
 
MikeMcMann said:
In many jurisdictions outside N.America the tip is built in automatically to the service.

So you have no choice and are paying that even if your service is crappy.

So the US model is superior as you really can reward or punish good or bad service.

But because its not built it in (and it could be) you are EXPECTED to tip when service is good.

When I see people say they are OK with places like Europe where its built in but they say they do not tip in N.America that just outs them as cheap and hiding under the system. Would they really prefer to be forced to tip on every meal in N.America whether service was good or not via it being built in? Because if not, then they SHOULD tip when it is good and not built in.
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You can still remove the tip. It's not mandatory. Or at least everywhere I've ever been you can remove it. I don't disagree with tipping. As I said in another post, if someone does a good job and makes your evening pleasant then I would always tip, if they don't, if they're just doing their job then they're already being paid for just doing their job.

But the thing I don't get is the "waiter chased a customer out of the restaurant for not leaving a tip/enough of a tip", and people support it. People see gratuity as mandatory, that wait staff have a right to be tipped. That is what I don't get. Like the guy in the OP, if all he did was bring drinks out that were ordered, then he didn't even deserve that $5 tip. I've had bar staff recognise that I've ordered the same drink a couple of times, and recommend other drinks and that he think's I'd like if I liked that one, and give me a sample. That's going above and beyond and would deserve a tip.
 
ISIS in blackface said:
I have a home office, I do have a job lined up tho as I previously mentioned itt.

Way to try and "get me" tho, you're the man bro
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I was just curious, not trying to "get you" so calm down.
Good luck on that potential gig. Hope you reported your last boss
 
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