GSP was right Conor moved up too quick.

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I think that was the real story. Conor was at the very least 5lbs heavier than on fight night against Aldo 3 months previous. Everyone that trains should know every oz counts in your performance and that cutting while it can be very dangerous can actually facilitate better performance as you have better power-weight ratio. So you are able to move faster, easier. Conor looked not only tired as he's trying to fight the same way with 5-10 extra pounds on the same guy who fought Jose Aldo. He looked in his own words "stuck in the mud" compared to when he fought at FW, where he looked like AIDS patient at the weigh in, but seemed much lighter on his feet and more precise in his movement. He should have taken his time and fought at LW first and got his body use to the added weight, this is what kept GSP from moving to MW which is a 15lb difference. Conor was fighting in a weight class with a 25lb difference in 3 months, recipe for disaster especially against one of the fastest most voluminous strikers in the division, how could he think he'd perform the same? His trainer saying he would be faster just using physics makes no sense. Conor would have been better off coming in at 156-160 instead of 168. What say you?
 
So what though? At least Conor had the courage to go up, not one but two weightclasses. I really respect and support GSP, but find his claims of avoiding MW for so long because of the reasons he stated absurd. If he went up though, he would likely lose to all the top5 MW. Just like Conor would to any top 5-10 MW. The point is Conor didn't care about his record etc, he just went up and took the fight.
 
It appears GSP wanted to fight Conor. I do agree that fighting at LW first to get more comfortable at a higher weight before moving to WW would have helped.
Maybe Conor should fight Edgar and Aldo to finish business at FW then fight RDA or whoever is LW champ and then try WW again.
 
RDA messed it all up faith stepped in for Nate Diaz. Conor took a chance at 170 a big risk and he lost.
 
NBAFAN said:
It appears GSP wanted to fight Conor. I do agree that fighting at LW first to get more comfortable at a higher weight before moving to WW would have helped.
Maybe Conor should fight Edgar and Aldo to finish business at FW then fight RDA or whoever is LW champ and then try WW again.
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Dana said absolutely NOT!
 
GSP got intrigued after the first round. I don't think Aldo can beat Conor unless he gets lucky or gets him on the ground. Aldo cannot take those punches from McGregor, he will be ko'd for sure.
 
It was an all balls, no brains move. He could've, and probably should've, just waited for the RDA fight. Even if he beats Diaz, it's not too big of a deal. The risk/reward was not worth it. He's gonna have that loss looming over his head for quite some time, and it was all for nothing, really.
 
Damn, Freddie sounds a little punchy. Or is that just how he's always talked?
 
Fighting Gaming said:
RDA messed it all up faith stepped in for Nate Diaz. Conor took a chance at 170 a big risk and he lost.
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Either way it would've been pick your poison I actually thought he got the luck of the Irish with the RDA pullout he was gonna get mauled alive. I thought Nate was too favorable a match-up obviously so did Dana and the McGregor camp.
 
There were talks pre-fight about how Conor was looking thick, and in one of the pics he did look to have wider shoulders and arms, etc, but when I saw him in the ring last Saturday, he didn't look much different; still skinny legs and overall thin body. He looked like a little guy only. And I thought Nate was a tad bigger than him, not just the obvious height, but overall body size... I knew he was in for trouble then.

Anyways, about the slight weight gain, perhaps and probably it's true. Even if just gaining about 5 lbs in a few short months will affect cardio... But regardless of whether Conor is between 155-160 lbs or 168 lbs on fight night, he would have still lost to Nate anyway using that straight on attack style. Nate can endure all of that and dish back, of which Conor can't withstand. If he went to the body (and legs more) like how he realizes after the fight when he did the interview then he probably would have won.
 
And I don't think there was a 25 lbs difference between fights. When Conor's fighting at the FW class, he probably weighs on fight night (when he's in the cage) at about 160-163+ lbs... On the night that he fought Nate, he's 168 lbs (doubtful he cut weight for this, other than taking a piss before weigh in, and remained pretty much this weight on fight night). So really, there's only about 5-8 lbs or so in actual weight difference from his fight with Aldo to his fight with Nate... Sure that weight gain in a short time span could affect cardio, but it wouldn't have made much a difference imo if he was to fight Nate using that head on attack approach. A different strategy (body and leg attack) would have done it for him. But not a head on collision course.
 
fractal said:
So what though? At least Conor had the courage to go up, not one but two weightclasses. I really respect and support GSP, but find his claims of avoiding MW for so long because of the reasons he stated absurd. If he went up though, he would likely lose to all the top5 MW. Just like Conor would to any top 5-10 MW. The point is Conor didn't care about his record etc, he just went up and took the fight.
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GSP is an average sized WW Conor is a very big FW.

Pravus said:
Damn, Freddie sounds a little punchy. Or is that just how he's always talked?
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Really? Really? I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt he has Parkinsons and has done for a long time.
 
but but but... there are no weight classes in war. conor is way faster than werdum, he'd starch him easy.
 
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