GSP HGH gut?

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UJustGotChaeld said:
His gut looks normal too. 99% of his pics he has no gut, it only happens when he is caught breathing while working out. That makes PED use an impossibility as a cause.
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You throw around impossible a lot. Whether his gut looks "normal" is a value judgement. Show me other ripped guys in the UFC with guts like that.

Mine explaining the mechanism of impossibility? Why can't it simply be edema which is a side effect of HGH? How is that impossible?

If growth hormone is given to children or adults with normal growth, who do not need growth hormone, serious unwanted effects may occur because levels in the body become too high. These effects include the development of diabetes; abnormal growth of bones and internal organs such as the heart, kidneys, and liver;





    • Abdominal pain or bloating
    • changes in vision
    • depression of skin at place of injection
 
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363 Posts and this thread is still going strong with all the conspiracies!

I bet GSP intentionally sticks his gut out when he knows he's being photographed just to rile up everyone on the MMA forums at the same time as keep his name in the

Lol, Conor posts some stupid pics of him jumping on a hotel bed with the hotel room trashed -- GSP posts photos of himself sticking his gut out --- BRILLIANT SELF MARKETING!!!
 
JonesBones said:
Why can't it simply be edema which is a side effect of HGH?
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HGH gut is not edema. If it is edema, explain how HGH or PED use is a necessary explanation.

Either way, edema is not HGH gut, so edema would mean this is 100% not HGH gut.

Now explain why his HGH induced edema only comes out when he is exerting himself and is gone within hours.

I look forward to your explanations.
 
UJustGotChaeld said:
HGH gut is not edema. If it is edema, explain how HGH or PED use is a necessary explanation.

Either way, edema is not HGH gut, so edema would mean this is 100% not HGH gut.

Now explain why his HGH induced edema only comes out when he is exerting himself and is gone within hours.

I look forward to your explanations.
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HGH can cause edema. I don't know if HGH Gut is even an actual term but you are muddying the waters now. HGH CAUSES EDEMA. Many people think GSP has something that looks like edema. You throwing words around differently does not make anything 100% no matter how many types you repeat it. I have provided a medical mechanism for HGH causing stomach bloating so shove your 100% up your ass and get back to crying to mods for talking shit about GSP.
 
JonesBones said:
HGH can cause edema. I don't know if HGH Gut is even an actual term but you are muddying the waters now. HGH CAUSES EDEMA. Many people think GSP has something that looks like edema. You throwing words around differently does not make anything 100% no matter how many types you repeat it. I have provided a medical mechanism for HGH causing stomach bloating so shove your 100% up your ass and get back to crying to mods for talking shit about GSP.
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HGH gut is an actual term. It is not actually caused by HGH, but by the insulin taken with HGH being the more likely cause. The fact you do not even understand what is being discussed makes sense as your post reeks of ignorance.

Edema is not evidence of HGH use. Now, as I said, please tell me how HGH induced edema can be a cause when the gut only comes out during exertion and photos taken within hours of each other will show no gut and then a gut.

Basically I asked you a bunch of questions for you to see there is no validity to your argument. Instead you chose to admit you were ignorant, but keep posting the same tired argument that is 100% impossible.
 
HGH gut doesn't come and go in matter of hours or days even. Through out his career he has always looked the same, hell even Machida in Brazil looked different than Machida in the States. To accuse him of using HGH/PEDS base on a few pictures is fucking stupid. He was never popped for PEDs, he insisted on better and more stringent testing.
 
UJustGotChaeld said:
HGH gut is an actual term. It is not actually caused by HGH, but by the insulin taken with HGH being the more likely cause. The fact you do not even understand what is being discussed makes sense as your post reeks of ignorance.

Edema is not evidence of HGH use. Now, as I said, please tell me how HGH induced edema can be a cause when the gut only comes out during exertion and photos taken within hours of each other will show no gut and then a gut.

Basically I asked you a bunch of questions for you to see there is no validity to your argument. Instead you chose to admit you were ignorant, but keep posting the same tired argument that is 100% impossible.
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I'm gonna make this simple for everyone else to clear up your distortion of the subject:

1. Edema makes it look like you swallowed a bowling ball. That is a fact.
2. GSP looks like he swallowed a bowling ball. That is a matter of interpretation but something many people see and so do I. This seems to be the only point you are arguing. That GSP does not look like he swallowed a bowling ball.
3. HGH causes edema

Does that mean GSP has edema or HGH is the cause? No. It doesn't mean he 100% didn't either. Only an idiot throws around words like "impossible" and "100%" on this subject and shows you have an agenda to suck another man's dick.
 
viet1098 said:
HGH gut doesn't come and go in matter of hours or days even. Through out his career he has always looked the same, hell even Machida in Brazil looked different than Machida in the States. To accuse him of using HGH/PEDS base on a few pictures is fucking stupid. He was never popped for PEDs, he insisted on better and more stringent testing.
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That makes him suspicious to me. Why would he campaign for more PED testing unless he knew he was going to pass their tests?
 
JonesBones said:
I'm gonna make this simple for everyone else to clear up your distortion of the subject:
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I already made it simple for you moron.

HGH gut =/= Edema. HGH gut is an actual term. So if this is Edema it is not HGH gut.
His entire body (hands, feet etc..) having no swelling makes calling this HGH induced edema ridiculous to begin with.
HGH induced edema does not magically appear only while you exert yourself, and can not go away in hours. Therefore this is literally impossible for this to be HGH induced edema.

GSP can be slurping on more HGH than Ronnie Coleman, and pumping more steroids than the entire Russian Olympic program, this is still not HGH gut. End of story, it's a literal medical impossibility.
 
superpunch said:
That makes him suspicious to me. Why would he campaign for more PED testing unless he knew he was going to pass their tests?
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So wanting to be tested is suspicious? The only way to know you are going to pass is if you are clean, there is no other way to know. Am I missing something?
 
UJustGotChaeld said:
So wanting to be tested is suspicious? The only way to know you are going to pass is if you are clean, there is no other way to know. Am I missing something?
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Unless you know that what you're on won't be detected but what your opponent is on will fail USADAs test. I'm just saying
 
superpunch said:
That makes him suspicious to me. Why would he campaign for more PED testing unless he knew he was going to pass their tests?
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Or............. just a crazy thought.................he's clean, because he doesn't take anything, and isn't worry about getting popped.
 
superpunch said:
Unless you know that what you're on won't be detected but what your opponent is on will fail USADAs test. I'm just saying
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Except you can't know that. The only way to know is to be clean. No one is asking for more testing. Name one person who ever popped hot who demanded more testing over and over, and was willing to pay for it, and actually did it.

No one dirty does that. Even the most sophisticated dopers can get caught.
 
viet1098 said:
HGH gut doesn't come and go in matter of hours or days even. Through out his career he has always looked the same, hell even Machida in Brazil looked different than Machida in the States. To accuse him of using HGH/PEDS base on a few pictures is fucking stupid. He was never popped for PEDs, he insisted on better and more stringent testing.
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Machida got caught for steroids... So what was your case?
 
UJustGotChaeld said:
Except you can't know that. The only way to know is to be clean. No one is asking for more testing. Name one person who ever popped hot who demanded more testing over and over, and was willing to pay for it, and actually did it.
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GSP
 
Pikkon said:
Machida got caught for steroids... So what was your case?
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Machida was not caught with steroids. It was 7-keto.

ETA: DHEA is a minor PED. DHEA metabolises into 7-keto. IIRC WADA admits DHEA really does not do much if anything. 7-keto is a shadow of that. It helps a little with weight loss iirc.
 
UJustGotChaeld said:
Please source where he was caught. I missed that.
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Here is GSP getting caught

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