News Greg Doucette former steroid user & bodybuilder says every fitness model and nice body uses roids

[horc00]

Mr Naturals. This Greg Douche chap is salty.

 

[DarkneT]

I don’t like Greg, but he’s right constantly on this subject.

If you’ve been around gyms long enough you can tell who is on shit, and at his age and level of qualification hes gotta be rolling his eyes at these dickheads like Thurston claiming its chicken breast and rice LOL

 

[DarkneT]

Mr Naturals. This Greg Douche chap is salty.

Both on shit yeah

 

[aus101]

Ped's, diet and training was hardly optimal back in 1949 (if the ped's these guys were on even worked much at all) so you can assume these physiques can be attained naturally with elite genetics.

This was Ronnie's first contest. He claimed natural here and would later put on a tonne of size, so it's at least possible (however unlikely) he could of attained this naturally.

The inventor of the bench press and hack squat around the turn of the 19th century (pre roids).

With top genetics one can achieve an impressive physique naturally. For the average guy, brad Pitt in fight club or Christian bale in American psycho should both be attainable.

 

[Oceanmachine]

I don’t like Greg, but he’s right constantly on this subject.

If you’ve been around gyms long enough you can tell who is on shit, and at his age and level of qualification hes gotta be rolling his eyes at these dickheads like Thurston claiming its chicken breast and rice LOL

Kali muscle also claims natural. But he eats a lot or junk.

I think its now foolish to aim for an Instagram phyisque and NOT use stuff. Also the guys who are all for being natural are usually taking GNC stuff which technically isnt natural stuff but isnt anabolic

Ped's, diet and training was hardly optimal back in 1949 (if the ped's these guys were on even worked much at all) so you can assume these physiques can be attained naturally with elite genetics.

This was Ronnie's first contest. He claimed natural here and would later put on a tonne of size, so it's at least possible (however unlikely) he could of attained this naturally.

The inventor of the bench press and hack squat around the turn of the 19th century (pre roids).

With top genetics one can achieve an impressive physique naturally. For the average guy, brad Pitt in fight club or Christian bale in American psycho should both be attainable.

I do believe Ronnie was natural early on and in that photo, and he has admitted tons of steroid use since after that photo so why would he lie? But as some have said including Greg everyone takes some PEDs in the form of nutrition shit from GNC, but you can claim natty despite that stuff as most people mean natty to mean they are NOT taking Anabolics or SARMS.. But 99% cant look like Ronnie and that is from his own mouth. Brad Pitt is essentially very thin with not much mass in Fight club, but lean looks good. Christian Bale is a skinnier version of smaller fitness models today but A LOT of men are BELOW average in muscle building abilities and genes.

Ronnie on the Joe Rogan show he said he started winning due to steroids but that he has a work ethic and elite genetics most dont have. I believe him.

Ronnie said he took TRT, HGH and Dbol when he roided.

 

[DarkneT]

Kali muscle also claims natural. But he eats a lot or junk.

I think its now foolish to aim for an Instagram phyisque and NOT use stuff. Also the guys who are all for being natural are usually taking GNC stuff which technically isnt natural stuff but isnt anabolic





I do believe Ronnie was natural as he has admitted tons of steroid use so why would he lie? But as some have said including Greg everyone takes some PEDs in the form of nutrition shit from GNC, but you can claim natty despite that stuff as most people mean natty to mean they are NOT taking Anabolics or SARMS.. But 99% cant look like Ronnie and that is from his own mouth. Brad Pitt is essentially very thin with not much mass in Fight club, but lean looks good. Christian Bale is a skinnier version of smaller fitness models today but A LOT of men are BELOW average in muscle building abilities and genes.

On Joe Rogan show he said he started winning due to steroids but that he has a work ethic and elite genetics most dont have. I believe him.

Ronnie said he took TRT, HGH and Dbol when he roided.

It’s the fact that the Instagram crowd stay like that year round, I will say a lot can be said for angles lighting and photoshop and also knowing how to hide weaknesses.
But when people are chucking round 6 figure contracts to push some fart powder when in reality you’re only intelligent enough to be mowing grass..
You better believe they are taking stuff to stay at that level because the next guy always will be, and the guy at the top of the pyramid will be

 

[aus101]

Kali muscle also claims natural. But he eats a lot or junk.

I think its now foolish to aim for an Instagram phyisque and NOT use stuff. Also the guys who are all for being natural are usually taking GNC stuff which technically isnt natural stuff but isnt anabolic





I do believe Ronnie was natural as he has admitted tons of steroid use so why would he lie? But as some have said including Greg everyone takes some PEDs in the form of nutrition shit from GNC, but you can claim natty despite that stuff as most people mean natty to mean they are NOT taking Anabolics or SARMS.. But 99% cant look like Ronnie and that is from his own mouth. Brad Pitt is essentially very thin with not much mass in Fight club, but lean looks good. Christian Bale is a skinnier version of smaller fitness models today but A LOT of men are BELOW average in muscle building abilities and genes.

On Joe Rogan show he said he started winning due to steroids but that he has a work ethic and elite genetics most dont have. I believe him.

Ronnie said he took TRT, HGH and Dbol when he roided.

Brad and Christian are both around 155-165 circa 10 percent bodyfat which I feel is attainable for most. I personally have wrists and ankles that are smaller than 90 percent of males (sub 8 inch ankles, 6.5 inch wrists at average height, 5'10, while being slow twitch as fuck, which is terrible muscle building genetics) yet through years of natural training have attained a 160 pound circa 10 percent bodyfat physique that is pretty much what those two achieved in those films (benching 275 and deadlifting 440).

Thus I feel most males, even with poor genetics for it like myself can do it if they train enough (brad and Christian both trained for less than a year to attain what took me far longer but still).

 

[Oceanmachine]

Brad and Christian are both around 155-165 circa 10 percent bodyfat which I feel is attainable for most. I personally have wrists and ankles that are smaller than 90 percent of males (sub 8 inch ankles, 6.5 inch wrists at average height, 5'10, while being slow twitch as fuck, which is terrible muscle building genetics) yet through years of natural training have attained a 160 pound circa 10 percent bodyfat physique that is pretty much what those two achieved in those films (benching 275 and deadlifting 440).

Thus I feel most males, even with poor genetics for it like myself can do it if they train enough (brad and Christian both trained for less than a year to attain what took me far longer but still).

Post pics of yourself if its true. I want to see it myself

 

[drstrangelov]

I have seen the damage that shit does to your system for most of my life being around sports and Gyms. I have seen the justifications and it’s always crap. I can almost understand the risks for these huge multi million dollar sports contracts.... but just to look good? Are you that insecure?

Most of the guys posted are making their money as fitness models, so keeping in that kind of shape is probably very lucrative, they’re keeping their sugar daddies happy.

People on gear for professional or competitive reasons tend, as far as I’ve seen, to be more careful and controlled in their use. Admittedly, my experience is just from a lifetime in gyms with regionally successful bodybuilders and power lifters, it might get more reckless trying to hang at the elite level.

 

[Phlog]

Most of the guys pictured aren't even that big.

I'd venture to say their physiques can be achieved naturally if... They built them over a long period of time.

The issue is, you see their progression pics and these guys go from looking like bean poles to what they do now in like two years. Clearly aided by PEDs.

Most of the jacked nattys that you see on YouTube or wherever have been lifting for five years (at best) plus. Guys like Jeff Nippard and Sean nalewanyj have been lifting for like 15 years. Chances are they'll sustain those physiques for decades to come because they did it the right way and not the easy way.

Jeff Nippard is fucking great. He does fantastic work.

Mr Naturals. This Greg Douche chap is salty.

Both on shit yeah

Northcut is natty imo. I have a friend who looks almost exactly like him, Greek statue level cut all year round, kickboxing champion. I've known the kid (man now) since he was a young teen and it's been continuous effort, no PEDs. It's disgusting.

 

[kimocomplex]

One of my amateurs won a championship at 132 lbs. he was about 15 years old

he quit boxing, came back a couple years later and was twice as big as our Strength & Conditioning coach. He swore he was all natural lmao

 

[Fluffernutter]

Baked chicken and steamed broccoli!!!!!!

 

[Stop Being Greedy]

I did one cycle of testosterone and anavar and it was awesome, until I got the flu and went to the doctor and they told me how high my blood pressure was. Would love to do another but that shit scared me. I was eating terribly, taking a bunch of preworkout, and just trying to get huge while doing zero cardio at the time though. I'm sure I could do it more safely if I tried. I do think I'll go the TRT/HGH route when I'm older.

I've always had a pretty good physique when I'm in shape. I'm not a great athlete but I have good bodybuilding genetics. I'd never been asked by anyone in the gym if I was on gear before that one cycle though. Maybe 2 weeks into when the Test E had started really taking effect, multiple gym bros approached me while lifting at different times asking if I was natty. People really have a good eye for that shit now. The traps and delts are what change the most, from what I've seen. More androgen receptors apparently.

 

[shunyata]

Jeff Nippard is fucking great. He does fantastic work.





Northcut is natty imo. I have a friend who looks almost exactly like him, Greek statue level cut all year round, kickboxing champion. I've known the kid (man now) since he was a young teen and it's been continuous effort, no PEDs. It's disgusting.

Yeah, in grappling you can have some fat but still be strong under it.

In kickboxing........ anyone who spends 15-20 hours a week kickboxing for a few years ends up shredded naturally.

It goes with the territory.


One of my wife's friends asked us years ago what she should do to get her abs ripped 10 months before her wedding. Said she hates yoga, likes boxing, used to do TKD as a kid.

I'm like, here's the address of a Muay Thai gym. She loved it, and was all cut a few months later.

 

[eddi]

this is what a natty gym looks like

 

[Prefect]

Yup. Thought it was well known. There are genetic outliers but that's what they are, outliers and many ain't into said industries.

Near nobody. You can be big and strong but I think it is really hard to do that and be ripped.

 

[horc00]

Both on shit yeah

Northcut is natty imo. I have a friend who looks almost exactly like him, Greek statue level cut all year round, kickboxing champion. I've known the kid (man now) since he was a young teen and it's been continuous effort, no PEDs. It's disgusting.

I remember once reading about some minor celebrity that was caught cheating on his girl, and his defense was that all men do it. Greg's the steroid version of this man.

 

[Oceanmachine]

I did one cycle of testosterone and anavar and it was awesome, until I got the flu and went to the doctor and they told me how high my blood pressure was. Would love to do another but that shit scared me. I was eating terribly, taking a bunch of preworkout, and just trying to get huge while doing zero cardio at the time though. I'm sure I could do it more safely if I tried. I do think I'll go the TRT/HGH route when I'm older.

I've always had a pretty good physique when I'm in shape. I'm not a great athlete but I have good bodybuilding genetics. I'd never been asked by anyone in the gym if I was on gear before that one cycle though. Maybe 2 weeks into when the Test E had started really taking effect, multiple gym bros approached me while lifting at different times asking if I was natty. People really have a good eye for that shit now. The traps and delts are what change the most, from what I've seen. More androgen receptors apparently.

I cant wait to once I done with having kids

 

[Phlog]

Yeah, in grappling you can have some fat but still be strong under it.

In kickboxing........ anyone who spends 15-20 hours a week kickboxing for a few years ends up shredded.

It goes with the territory.


One of my wife's friends asked us years ago what she should do to get her abs ripped 10 months before her wedding. Said she hates yoga, likes boxing, used to do TKD as a kid.

I'm like, here's the address of a Muay Thai gym. She loved it, and was all cut a few months later.

Damn straight, it's absolutely brutal. I was always dogshit at running, all my life. Until I kickboxed, then I decided to try a short run and ended up doing something like ten miles at a run. Had absolutely no idea how good my cardio was.

 

[TeTe]

This is by far the best article on the topic if anyone is interested. Lots of good info and the author is a great example of what's attainable naturally.

https://legionathletics.com/how-to-build-muscle-naturally/