Economy Great information about the B2 replacement the B21 Stealth Raider

[PEB]

Did they put a crapper in there

That's top secret crapper to you.

 

[Rholk]

 

[GhostZ06]

Russians are getting good use out of their bombers in Ukraine, so it makes sense to update ours.

I mean if you wanna call it good use. They're losing more on the ground then the fucking air. They're bomb fleet is good at lobbing Cruise missiles and old style carpet bombing. They lack guided bombs which really hurts the bomber fleet. Even old mark 82s are able to be converted to Gbu-31 and paveways. For some reason the Russians didn't go this rout ? Which is why we are saying Su-34, and other shit fail in the air

 

[Dalarna3]

I mean if you wanna call it good use. They're losing more on the ground than the fucking air. Their bomb fleet is good at lobbing Cruise missiles and old style carpet bombing. They lack guided bombs which really hurts the bomber fleet. Even old mark 82s are able to be converted to Gbu-31 and paveways. For some reason the Russians didn't go this rout ? Which is why we are saying Su-34, and other shit fail in the air

They can’t get close enough to use precision guided munitions, so they use air launched cruise missiles. In a situation without air supremacy (because of anti-air systems), cruise missiles from long range at least work and these old Soviet bombers do the job because that is what they were designed for. The Russians have some guided munitions, but they always planned to not have air supremacy in a major war, which is why the best Russian fighter design is the mig 31 as it works from very long ranges.

 

[flashNsmash]

The Russians have some guided munitions, but they always planned to not have air supremacy in a major war, which is why the best Russian fighter design is the mig 31 as it works from very long ranges.

'best fighter'? it's a pure interceptor that's an evolution of a 1960's pure interceptor

 

[HomeCheese]

Waist of money and pure MIC. Can do anything with a drone of some sort I would imagine.

 

[Strychnine]

I would bet the furthest they would deploy is Anderson AB Guam...it always struck me funny when B-2 guys would say they "deployed" to Guam for 6 months lol.

I was stationed there!

 

[G-19]

Interestingly, the NYPD has offices overseas in fourteen different countries. They are not under the authority of the Chief of Mission.

As for the Chinese police stations, they claim they are there to help Chinese citizens complete paperwork. But, they can get that done at their closest consulate. So, I'm not sure why the US hasn't PNGed those working at these stations. Unless the US wants them around so that they can keep track at what's going on.

NYPD has those stations for the purpose of providing support against the global war on terror. Police aren’t being deployed, but they’re gathering intelligence that has helped protect NY from future attacks. Chicago does something similar but we don’t have any stations and don’t send anyone anywhere but we do share intelligence. All the major metropolitan areas do this for obvious reasons. No one wants a 9/11 to happen on their watch.

 

[Captain Sausage]

I was stationed there!

Nice I was stationed in Japan but I went there to get married as it is a territory and had a nice Honeymoon there. Snorkeling there was a blast. The wife loved it as its a pretty popular place for Japanese folks to vacation.

 

[Fluffernutter]

NYPD has those stations for the purpose of providing support against the global war on terror. Police aren’t being deployed, but they’re gathering intelligence that has helped protect NY from future attacks. Chicago does something similar but we don’t have any stations and don’t send anyone anywhere but we do share intelligence. All the major metropolitan areas do this for obvious reasons. No one wants a 9/11 to happen on their watch.

Those NYPD members are government employees that are not under chief of mission. This is a pretty big deal.

Intelligence is being gathered at the embassy. Plus, with bilateral relations, the communication/relationship between host and a US is much higher.

RSOs have complained that the NYPD folks are getting in the way of investigations.


https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dn...seas-has-been-waste-federal-officials-say.amp

 

[djacobox372]

Waist of money and pure MIC. Can do anything with a drone of some sort I would imagine.

I'm sure this thing can be used as a drone... pilots are optional.

The problem with drones is they can get hacked, and you don't want a plane carrying a nuke to be hacked.

 

[SandisLL]

I was stationed there!

Guam,?

 

[Dalarna3]

'best fighter'? it's a pure interceptor that's an evolution of a 1960's pure interceptor

By fighter I mean plane that shoots down other planes.

 

[GhostZ06]

They can’t get close enough to use precision guided munitions, so they use air launched cruise missiles. In a situation without air supremacy (because of anti-air systems), cruise missiles from long range at least work and these old Soviet bombers do the job because that is what they were designed for. The Russians have some guided munitions, but they always planned to not have air supremacy in a major war, which is why the best Russian fighter design is the mig 31 as it works from very long ranges.

they aren't as obsessives about accuracy as we are. I havent seen to many, but i know lot of our weapon are made to strike outside of A2A defense.

I also feel like compared to theyre old doctrine, the way they use this mig31/25 has been....interesting ?

 

[SandisLL]

I'm sure this thing can be used as a drone... pilots are optional.

The problem with drones is they can get hacked, and you don't want a plane carrying a nuke to be hacked.

It is good tool to threat with deNazification.

While if about these drones, look how large number of cheap Itan drones had been used in Ukr?
Simple, no nukes and cheap....

 

[G-19]

Those NYPD members are government employees that are not under chief of mission. This is a pretty big deal.

Intelligence is being gathered at the embassy. Plus, with bilateral relations, the communication/relationship between host and a US is much higher.

RSOs have complained that the NYPD folks are getting in the way of investigations.

Per your source the major issue are their lack of a working relationship with local LEOs and the detectives not having a security clearance or need to know which is kind of crazy to me. It doesn’t make sense that these detectives haven’t had paperwork submitted for them by their task force counterparts to the NBIB for security clearances. I found the below information pretty interesting.

“That's because those NYPD Intelligence Division detectives were based in Singapore, and were sent into a chaotic terrorism scene where they had no previous relationship with local law enforcement.

And even in Singapore, those detectives had no security clearance and no standing with the Singapore Internal Security Department, which is the agency tasked with combating terrorism. The SISD will not even meet with any U.S. representative, even informally, outside a U.S. embassy.”

The article also stated that the program needs some reconfiguration which I agree with. The GWOT is powering down in certain areas and focusing more on SE Asia and Africa now. I’m sure they can tweak the program and make it work better for all parties.

 

[Dalarna3]

they aren't as obsessives about accuracy as we are. I havent seen to many, but i know lot of our weapon are made to strike outside of A2A defense.

I also feel like compared to theyre old doctrine, the way they use this mig31/25 has been....interesting ?

Standard American practice is to use SEAD and air superiority fighters to achieve air supremacy, and then bring out the highly effective precision guided munitions. Soviet response was really powerful anti air systems with aircraft to operate in the bubble of anti air cover or deep within friendly territory. Russia’s bombers, mig 31s, and su 57s are staying in Russian territory, and firing off their missiles. The su 24, 25, and 27s (plus variants) are in Ukraine and also taking relatively high losses. Prior to the start of the war, there was a lot of hype on the su 27 family, but I think they have underperformed compared to the more long range options the Russians have. I don’t think the Russians are using the mig 25 anymore. Where the Russians are weakest is probably in anti-radiation missiles IIRC

 

[GhostZ06]

Standard American practice is to use SEAD and air superiority fighters to achieve air supremacy, and then bring out the highly effective precision guided munitions. Soviet response was really powerful anti air systems with aircraft to operate in the bubble of anti air cover or deep within friendly territory. Russia’s bombers, mig 31s, and su 57s are staying in Russian territory, and firing off their missiles. The su 24, 25, and 27s (plus variants) are in Ukraine and also taking relatively high losses. Prior to the start of the war, there was a lot of hype on the su 27 family, but I think they have underperformed compared to the more long range options the Russians have. I don’t think the Russians are using the mig 25 anymore. Where the Russians are weakest is probably in anti-radiation missiles IIRC

I also think they still havent developed any modern tactics for the su-27 family and or Su34 fullback.

Posted a few pictures of Su-35S carrying a a couple SEAD missiles. Mig-25 has a SEAD variant, but i think the MiG-31BSM replaces that one.

 

[Dalarna3]

I also think they still havent developed any modern tactics for the su-27 family and or Su34 fullback.

Posted a few pictures of Su-35S carrying a a couple SEAD missiles. Mig-25 has a SEAD variant, but i think the MiG-31BSM replaces that one.

The Ukrainians are much better about adapting their tactics. As such, they are getting a lot out of their outdated mig 29s. While they may have SEAD missiles, they are not nearly as effective at accomplishing their mission overall when compared to the US. The Soviets made air defense that their own Air Force couldn’t overcome. Of course, the HARMs we sent have not worked wonders anyway. I think that high quality air defense has an advantage against non stealth conventional planes across the board.

 

[GhostZ06]

The model image combined with on-the-record descriptions of the aircraft and its lineage, including knowing that Have Blue and the resulting Senior Trend design that turned into the F-117 had much influence on the Senior Peg configuration, as you can read all about in our background narrative about the program following these illustrations, helped fill in some blanks. How the B-2 emerged and quickly evolved in terms of skin treatment and coatings also helped. In the end, we came up with as close a representation of what Senior Peg could have looked like as an operational aircraft as possible.

Now, after months of revisions, here are those renderings:

https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/this-is-what-lockheeds-stealth-bomber-would-have-looked-like

F-117 influence. looks like a stretched and smoothed out HAV blue