Gracie Barra Review

Yah, Nothing like that at GB Huntington beach. Green belts for kids under 16, no belt testing, we DO have to wear under shirts or rash guards under the GI to help prevent skin disease apparently, No charge for belts at my school, no charge for belt testing, we do have to wear a GB GI but thats cool with me. We always mess around in class, when we are not training, you come to train but you can still have fun.

And whats wrong with bowing? Thats just showing respect to the professor...sounds like you didn't train at the right GB or at all.
 
Interesting. I can believe the OP but I do not think all GB schools are like this. Some of them may be though. And it sounds like GB America management is getting a bit stricter. Here's an excerpt of a recent blog post by someone I know who is a blue belt at a GB school:

Today we spent forty minutes listening to [name of instructor] talk about a lot of changes that will be happening. All the GB schools in the area will be on the same rotating curriculum. We are going to have attendance cards to be marked off so that the instructors can keep better track of how often you're showing up. A few formality changes- we are going to line up and bow/shake hands with each and every person as class ends instead of just bowing to the teacher en masse, no more coming in with pants that aren't the same color as your jacket (damn- I've been wearing the blue GB A2 pants with one of my white gi jackets... now I have to get that blue GB jacket hemmed if I want to use those pants any more), we have to Sharpie our names onto the lapels of our jackets (I kind of like that one; I'm so bad about remembering people's names... although it will scuttle my plan of having [names of friends] eventually inherit a couple of my gi's). It also looks like once you get to blue belt, you won't advance in rank any more unless you are consistantly getting to the ADVANCED classes- not just doing basic classes. That would be something of a PITA if I cared about advancing in rank, but since I don't, it doesn't bother me.
 
By the way, I have been thinking about joining a GB school after an upcoming move back to the US, but I refuse to wear a rash guard under my gi (I find it very hot and uncomfortable), and I like my current gis just fine, so if a GB school requires me to wear only a GB gi with a rash guard underneath at all times, I might train somewhere else for that reason alone.
 
I like the informality of my gym. I don't think I'd enjoy going to a place that made me bow, and buy a certain type of gi. The only thing my school somewhat enforces is putting our school patch on the gi - but that's really only for those who compete - and I've only seen it enforced a few times.

Then again, we're not Gracie Barra - but my instructors lineage traces back to that school.
 
I train at a GB gym and I must say, it is really relaxed in the gym. There are a few rules, but I refer to them as common sense. There is no belt testing, or charging for belts. You can wear anyyyyy kind of gi you want to, as long as when you compete you have your GB patches on it.

The only green belts are for kids class, until you are 16. Then you are in the adults class and are a blue. And if you are good enough as a green belt as a kid, once you are 16 you can possibly be promoted purple. Haven't seen this before though.

I feel bad for you and your GB gym... sounds like a burden more than a hobby.

.... no offense
 
I train at GBLI. No green belts in adult classes. No belt testing fees.
 
we don't have belt testing fees or belt fees either.. I assume the three grand plus you spend between promotions would be plenty to pay for that 15 dollar belt.
 
I'm pretty sure I know which gym he is at, not a troll job. And I agree, lame.
 
It's possible the guy does, but really I haven't heard anything too negative. He didn't state his age so it is possible he could be in his teens so a green belt is something he is subjected to. Plenty of schools require students to wear their schools uniform or gi, now ours doesn't and in fact i have a bright fucking hideous yellow vulcan so it is about as informal as it gets. Wearing a rash guard under your gi is good hygine and if your school has had lots of problems with bacteria and shit spreading around then it seems reasonable.

It just sounds like they are trying to go a bit more tranditional and with the amount of dumb fucks that start taking BJJ because they saw teh UFC and want to do armbars as well with their barb wire tattoo I can kinda understand.

Also, he pointed out their instructors were top notch and apparently you pay for it, which is awesome for them. If you want crappier instructors i'm sure someone could go somewhere else.
 
so, i have been a member of gracie barra for sometime now. I won't mention which one at the moment, because i don't feel comfortable doing so, but soon i may. This is a review of how it has changed over the years, the good, and the bad.

I am an advanced blue belt for those who are curious about it.

Let's begin:

green belts: Sometime ago the organization introduced green belts. Now, you would think that this may lead to a kind of mcdojo atmosphere, but in fact it is breeding a kind of super blue belt in our academy. People receive their green belts, which are really only offered every 6 months now (more into that later), and then are stuck with it for a while. This means we have blue belt level green belts around that have to enter comps as white belts. I supposed this is ok, since people feel encouraged once they are promoted to green, and are less likely to quit. They also become more motivated to train and be better than white belts. The negative besides the limbo class this creates for tournaments is the hefty $60 price tag that comes with the belt.

belt testing: belt tests used to be quarterly. Apparently they are now making it biannual. And forget about getting a belt if you can't afford the $60 bucks they charge you for it. With the introduction of green belts, which can be earned as soon as you have a few strips (2-6 months), i can only imagine how much money they make off of this. The ordeal takes hours since we have to wait for kids and adults from 4 different academies to test. I'm yet to see someone fail a test.

gracie barra america take over: recently gracie barra america took over the organization. With that, our formerly relaxed training environment is becoming a pain in the ass environment. Our new rules include always wearing a shirt under the gi, no talking unless it's related to the training, absolutely no cursing (i feel bad for our instructors because they curse often), blah blah blah. They now sell a gi made by atama that costs 180 bucks. And you have to wear it. No other brands, gis, whatever allowed. This is an even bigger pain in the ass because when you start they sell you this shitty judo gi for something like 80 bucks that you must wear, but once you are promoted you have to wear the damn atama gi, meaning fork over 180 bucks along with the 60 that you spent on your belt. Add that to a minimum of 99 bucks a month.
Our instructors come from brazil, where bjj is absolutely informal, so they feel like total douches having to enforce these rules. Recently one of our top instructors was telling us how back in the day (12 years ago, he's young) there was no bowing, you could slap people during training, you wore whatever gi you could find. Basically, no formal bs. Now they have to endure this stuff.

instructors:instruction is top notch. We have a pan am champ, a successful competitor, a good brown, a successful mma fighter, and a few other black belts. Since we have so many locations there is plenty of room to develop a varied game, and to see different styles of bjj if you can train at different places. Our instructors are overworked, teaching all classes in their respective academies, in charge of administrative work, having to train to compete, etc. They pull 12-14 hour days at least 3 times a week, but i suspect that most places are similar.

Anyways, this is a review for now. I'll add more later. Really tired atm.

troll!!!
 
i dont know why anyone thinks this guy is a troll or lying. he had a well thought out post with concrete examples. seems like he is frustrated and telling the truth.

im not surprised at all, and i expect this type of atmosphere will start spreading.
 
I can't wait to hear where you train....Our school is NOTHING like that. Neither are our promotions or are costs. The rules are there, but its nothing like this boot camp you describe. Even when Master Carlos himself showed up...it was pretty relaxed aside from the excitement.

I mean everything is common sense..you don't want to curse around parents or kids or women....thats anywhere. And wearing a shirt or a rash guard under your Gi is good for hygiene.


How funny - I was going to say the exact same thing.
 
This isn't a troll job. There are GB schools like this.
 
I'm not in the position to be telling someone how to run their academy but I think paying extra for a belt is ridiculous on top of monthly payments. Why not include the whole package in the payments?
 
So basically some of your blue-belt level green belts are sandbagging in the white belt division to feel good about themselves?
 
The best thing I can think of is getting promoted on the podium.
 
This isn't a troll job. There are GB schools like this.

There may be GB schools like this, but why make this a first post unless one is trying to start shit? Green belts, testing fees-- it's a list of things guaranteed to make the grappling forum flip out.
 
So basically some of your blue-belt level green belts are sandbagging in the white belt division to feel good about themselves?

So are you one of the guys who would rather have crappier blue belts? The green belt keeps the standard of blue belt high, while acknowledging that someone with a little practice is better than a guy who is just starting out, but doennt have the fundamentals down, like a blue belt should.

The fact that green belts compete in white belt tourneys is more an incident of the fact that tournaments can't accomodate their rank, not that they are sandbagging.
 
There may be GB schools like this, but why make this a first post unless one is trying to start shit? Green belts, testing fees-- it's a list of things guaranteed to make the grappling forum flip out.

If someone flips out out because someone has shed light on a situation that is very likely true, than they need to see a therapist.

Seriously.
 
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