Gov Jerry Brown of CA announces statewide minimum wage for 2022

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Gov Jerry Brown in California is apparently feeling giddy that his state will be the first with a statewide mw of $15...but by 2022? Whoopeeee! What effect can we expect that to have on wages above the minimum?

http://www.kesq.com/news/california-governor-jerry-brown-hails-minimum-wage-proposal/38743796

And does anyone remember the CEPR 2012 ("The Minimum Wage is Too Damn Low" by John Schmitt) study that found that the mw should be $21.72?

http://cepr.net/documents/publications/min-wage1-2012-03.pdf

What good is that $15 going to be by 2022?
 
If this is so important, why 6 years from now? Give businesses a chance to automate?
 
They should make it 25$ an hour......




..by 2100

:cool:
 
Could work in some economies. In Watford City, ND, the Taco John's starts employees out at $15.80/hour.
 
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lol brown is in the pockets of big companies that wanted to automate anyway. He just gave them a excuse and time to implement the plan.
 
TheGoodNews said:
Gov Jerry Brown in California is apparently feeling giddy that his state will be the first with a statewide mw of $15...but by 2022? Whoopeeee! What effect can we expect that to have on wages above the minimum?

http://www.kesq.com/news/california-governor-jerry-brown-hails-minimum-wage-proposal/38743796

And does anyone remember the CEPR 2012 ("The Minimum Wage is Too Damn Low" by John Schmitt) study that found that the mw should be $21.72?

http://cepr.net/documents/publications/min-wage1-2012-03.pdf

What good is that $15 going to be by 2022?
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The "lady" with the penis needs to be legally insured entry into all women's public restrooms tomorrow - the indignity and suffering of she and those like her can not be allowed to continue for even one more day.

But let's throw the country's poorest working people a few crumbs in six years.

This is establishment liberalism on full display.
 
This is like when Bart writes Milhouse a 1 million dollars check to be cashed in 100 years.
 
IdahoCBR said:
Could work in some economies. In Watford City, ND, the Taco John's starts employees out at $15.80/hour.
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I haven't seen any job ads for that area in awhile but that probably isn't the case anymore since the boom went bust. I got friends that were drillers that are now running wires and tires for $15 an hour now.
 
yea that's pretty shady having it start in 2022. gives corporations plenty of time to figure out how to keep fucking us over in other ways.
 
sloppypie said:
yea that's pretty shady having it start in 2022. gives corporations plenty of time to figure out how to keep fucking us over in other ways.
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cali currently has a $10 min wage. $15 is 50% more. The increase is going to screw people unless you have no skills and can only do work worth minimum wage.
"keep fucking us over"
I see
 
Skip Reming said:
cali currently has a $10 min wage. $15 is 50% more. The increase is going to screw people unless you have no skills and can only do work worth minimum wage.
"keep fucking us over"
I see
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minimum wage was implemented for the sole purpose to create mandatory minimum wages for people to be able to live on. b/c in times prior, if you read your history, companies would pay people as little as they could get away with (which is why they outsource jobs to other countries now). it was more akin to medieval feudalism than anything else.

if you don't understand that simple concept, then i don't know what to tell you other than you are very ignorant of the injustice and unfairness that takes place over something as simple as what wage to pay people.

riots and revolts have been started over less.

i wouldn't say if you were some struggling small business and you are barely making it yourself. but a company like walmart, where their family is worth $155 billion and pay their employees so little they have to go on welfare, deliberately moves their stores out of minimum wage hike locations, is the epitome of evil. and i hope it would be in your book as well if you consider yourself a decent person.
 
A small MW wage increase over inflation is probably good, but this doesn't solve the problem of workers not having the backbone to demand a larger share of the profits, which imo is the fundamental problem in America today.
 
sloppypie said:
minimum wage was implemented for the sole purpose to create mandatory minimum wages for people to be able to live on. b/c in times prior, if you read your history, companies would pay people as little as they could get away with (which is why they outsource jobs to other countries now). it was more akin to medieval feudalism than anything else.

if you don't understand that simple concept, then i don't know what to tell you other than you are very ignorant of the injustice and unfairness that takes place over something as simple as what wage to pay people.

riots and revolts have been started over less.

i wouldn't say if you were some struggling small business and you are barely making it yourself. but a company like walmart, where their family is worth $155 billion and pay their employees so little they have to go on welfare, deliberately moves their stores out of minimum wage hike locations, is the epitome of evil. and i hope it would be in your book as well if you consider yourself a decent person.
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Struggling small businesses make up the vast majority of the job market.

I don't care to get into an argument, but whatever your views on minimum wage it is fact that Walmart CEOs will not be the ones hurt by an increase in minimum wage, it will be the small business owners

All Walmart will do is pass the cost down to the consumer and with small businesses hurting they won't lose a dime considering in most medium-small cities they will be the only game left in town.
 
min wage goes to 15dollars, then brand new jordans are going from 200 dollars to 400 dollars.
 
Oedad said:
Struggling small businesses make up the vast majority of the job market.

I don't care to get into an argument, but whatever your views on minimum wage it is fact that Walmart CEOs will not be the ones hurt by an increase in minimum wage, it will be the small business owners

All Walmart will do is pass the cost down to the consumer and with small businesses hurting they won't lose a dime considering in most medium-small cities they will be the only game left in town.
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i'm belligerent to belligerent people. talk to me in a respectful tone, and i'll return it in kind.

and i agree, that creates a problem. but the problem is two fold - minimum wage hasn't kept up with inflation, corporate profits are higher than they have ever been, and thousands of people work for corporations. walmart has been one of the most destructive forces to small businesses ever, and small businesses are afraid to confront entities like them b/c they are worried about their own survival.

this is a serious problem, one that really requires people smarter than us to really sit down and analyze what a good solution is.

if i had to put forward some possible solutions, why not, say, more tax breaks for smaller businesses to offset the cost of minimum wage. or lower tax rates for small businesses to make up for the cost of the increase wages.

i'm no economic expert, but it seems like the government could easily create incentives to help the people that would be hurt the most.
 
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